Has any of you actually looked at the judge scores. How can you say that it awarded more to visual? It is split 50/50. Why do you say it awards a bigger percentage to visual? To Pilot Panther- What musically training do you have? I would have to think it must be very limited for you to find The Cavaliers music "inaccessible." You seem to be hypocritical in that you don't think the huge props that the Cadets are wonderful and yet don't think they are hurting the activity. You get all old school when it comes the corps you don't like doing new stuff, but when the Cadets decide to, it's wonderful. That's just plain stupid. Drum Corps is not a concert festival, you have to focus on both music and visual. Everybody with in earshot of me at SA thought the Cavaliers show was amazing and very entertaining musically and visually.