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crown1993

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  1. That has some possibilities. I used "War Inside My Head" for part of an MB show about dreams a few years ago. Also, didn't Teal Sound do a DT show this decade?
  2. True, I did bring up a few important precursory issues to establish background and need (I am a researcher and that is how I present an argument). These were at first discussed, then were swallowed in a sea of ego. Here was the entire last HALF of my OP (notice my primary statement was put in BOLD so no one would miss my point...it obviously did not work): I suppose the question I am asking is this: what are WE as an entire drum corps community who feel passionately about this activity doing about this? Are we making this a top priority or should we continue nebulous arguments about electronics and indoor stadium acoustics? If we can quickly raise $50K for fuel in a tight summer like we have done a couple of times now, can we not establish a "superfund" to support deserving kids who want to march but cannot because dues, travel, lost job time, etc. are too much in today's economy? How many have missed out on this amazing experience because of these factors, especially the economically disadvantaged who could use involvement in this kind of activity? Once upon a time, this was ALL drum corps was about. I would like to know what corps have established, well-funded scholarship programs and if any of you were beneficiaries of those funds. I honestly do not know which corps make high priorities of this because we rarely hear about it. Yes, I know there are at least a couple of scholarships DCI gives that get announced at Finals, but that does not seem to help very many kids. Maybe there are more that do not get a lot of publicity...I hope so. So....SHOW ME THE MONEY DCP! If you know of these scholarships, if for nothing else then maybe we could list them in this thread to help out others who are looking for help. If you know of another website that lists these, please post that as well. When I give to a homeless person, I do not ask them not to spend it on drugs, booze or cigarettes, though I hope and pray they do not. However, MONEY is not what I am really trying to give to that person but love and hope. That is what I want to give kids who want to march corps because it is what corps gave me and continues to give me. To those who have said you have given or are giving, thank you.
  3. Now I remember why I so rarely post here. Topics tend to disintegrate into the absurd and useless in no time.
  4. Wow. I don't know if anybody read the END of my original post. I was hoping to make this a HELPFUL thread in trying to list scholarship/sponsorship programs that help kids who want to march corps. No judgments. It wasn't my ignorance that needed excusing, it was my naivete.
  5. Also, what do the kids from, say, Hawaii do? I know one came to Crown's first camp, and I am glad he could afford it. What about everyone else? Kids in Montana? Alaska? It's a lot of travel for them no matter what nowadays. They should still have to work for it, but we could do something to help out.
  6. I totally agree that the members can/should put forth the effort where possible, but as you pointed out, despite a big effort some are probably having a VERY tough time in today's economy in raising funds where people are much more likely to hold on to their money. If there are fundraisers out there, they seem to be very under the radar. I know of so many talented kids who say they cannot march because of money, but have no idea that help is available and how to get it. College scholarships/grants/loans are everywhere. I would love to see the same kind of situation set up in drum corps, again for kids who truly have a NEED to pay dues (not travel, which they could raise privately).
  7. True, it could be abused, but some pre-set rules/eligibility could be established. Also, I do not think that travel should necessarily be paid for out of a general scholarship fund. If the member can afford to get themselves there, then they are on a level "paying field" (sorry...that was lame) with everybody else.
  8. I will ask for the usual pardons of ignorance about past posts on this topic before I begin.... I am very concerned that today's drum corps dues, especially for DCI World Class corps, are getting out of reach for many talented and deserving kids. While their certainly are cheaper options in Open class, DCA, etc. that I hope kids keep taking advantage of to support those groups, I have to wonder what opportunities are being offered by World Class corps to help kids financially. I know there are SOME scholarships and scholarship funds, but they seem more the exception than the rule. Don't get me wrong, I am not questioning the VALUE of the experience they are getting. I do think it is worth EVERY penny and then some and I am sure that most corps do everything they can to keep from overburdening the members financially (I think most membership dues only make up 1/4 to 1/3 of most corps budgets if that). However many World Class corps are charging the same amount as many state colleges charge for a semester's tuition ($2000-$3000)! I know there have been significant cost increases in, well, everything drum corps related from fuel to food to equipment and that has to come from somewhere. Again, I firmly believe most corps do what they can with the best interests of the membership in mind. I suppose the question I am asking is this: what are WE as an entire drum corps community who feel passionately about this activity doing about this? Are we making this a top priority or should we continue nebulous arguments about electronics and indoor stadium acoustics? If we can quickly raise $50K for fuel in a tight summer like we have done a couple of times now, can we not establish a "superfund" to support deserving kids who want to march but cannot because dues, travel, lost job time, etc. are too much in today's economy? How many have missed out on this amazing experience because of these factors, especially the economically disadvantaged who could use involvement in this kind of activity? Once upon a time, this was ALL drum corps was about. I would like to know what corps have established, well-funded scholarship programs and if any of you were beneficiaries of those funds. I honestly do not know which corps make high priorities of this because we rarely hear about it. Yes, I know there are at least a couple of scholarships DCI gives that get announced at Finals, but that does not seem to help very many kids. Maybe there are more that do not get a lot of publicity...I hope so. So....SHOW ME THE MONEY DCP! If you know of these scholarships, if for nothing else then maybe we could list them in this thread to help out others who are looking for help. If you know of another website that lists these, please post that as well.
  9. In case no one else says it: this would have fit right in with "The Grass Is Always Greener".
  10. Dude, who peed on your cornflakes this morning?
  11. Just another 2cents...but after 18 pages I wonder if it will even be read or relevant! Personal feeling....no. Practical feeling...yes and no. I don't see WWs, as someone else said way back on page 1, standing up to the rigors of touring (plus you can't SHOWER with them!), but I have to answer the question to my WW students every year. "Why don't they have woodwinds?" "Tradition" is not really an acceptable answer to them...they could care less about tradition - they're kids! They just see them being excluding from a highly valuable activity on their instrument. Yes, they CAN learn another instrument, do guard, etc., but that prevents them from developing their WW skills in the way the rest of the corps gets to develop their skills on their primary performance medium (brass, perc, guard). Overall, I side with the no's, but it does not change the fact that there are many being denied the opportunity. BUT, if they do allow it I am not going to throw a tantrum and stop supporting drum corps and going to shows. My four-year old throws enough tantrums around this house without me adding to the mix!
  12. I think I was for this idea until I read this post. Good point. I would love to see everyone to get the opportunity to age out a full season as I did, and I think I would have been terribly disappointed if something had happened to me that year. However I agree with "Feathers" that the potential for exploiting loopholes with multiple interpretations of the rule is too great. We all know that NCAA coaches do this to highly promising freshman athletes in an attempt to get an extra year (and more wins, championships, MONEY, etc.) out of them. Ironically enough those are the ones who tend to turn pro early! Then imagine some poor schelp at the DCI office, who, in addition to checking all birth cerrtificates for age, has to deal with appeals and trying to validate all of the information in the appeals; the paperwork would be a nightmare. One could potentially get official medical excuses out of doctors but we all know that doctor integrity is dropping dramatically these days thanks to the likes of Michael Jackson's doc, those who help "juice" pro athletes, etc. Yes, this IS "only drum corps", but humans are capable of some devious things when faced with desperation. Aging out is a very emotional thing and that could lead to folks doing things they may not nomally do. My hope is that DCI does not open the can of worms but facilitates injured age-outs marching DCA or corps consider them for staff positions, perhaps even allowing them to put on the uniform if they wish that year or the following year for the age-out ceremony or finals retreat.
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