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kinda wayward clues . . . .

"How do you hold this #$%^& thing?" The exact same words were spoken by Ren Schilke when I handed him a P/R flugel, seeking words of wisdom.

The name on the bell makes no difference here. The 6th partials on a G bugle are the same pitches as the 5th partials on a Bb instrument. The 7th partials on a G bugle (all noticeably flat to equal temperament) are [almost] the same pitches as the 6th partials on a Bb instrument. If you were to play higher than F4, the fingerings would not be common.

If you're thinking about something British, that march from Monty Python happens to be called "Liberty Bell" and was written by John Philip Sousa. (Who was Portugese/Bavarian.)

Post a clear side view picture of the bugle, I can then identify what it is and tell you what pitches it can play.

I bought a Whaley-Royce French Horn bugle from a Canadian seller. They made an appropriate shipping carton out of two Molson 12-packs.

Adding to what has already been posted: If you are shipping a horn in a case, make sure the blocking holds the horn securely. Shake the case - if you can hear the horn moving, it will be quite susceptible to shipping damage. Put a rubber ball in the bell, big enough to prevent the bell rim from contacting the case. Pack the case with large scraps of styro and/or air pillows. NEVER use pack'n'ship type styro peanuts or wadded paper. The cheapest and safest way is Greyhound Package Express. The horns get loaded on a bus bay, by hand, and never are more than a foot off the ground. The disadvantages are a limited insurance policy, no enroute tracking, and service is only between major bus terminals. A shipper's insurance policy is only as good as their reputation for settling similar claims.

SHE wouldn't pass the physical.

I was a bando, and already had won both the AL and VFW championships. But I then joined a drum corps, because I was attracted by the unique instrumentation.

A certain pipe-smoking, cardigan-wearing, bugle instructor always called this guy 'the ostrich".

50 years ago, this guy fronted a MOB operation.

Peash is so skinny he even lost a letter off his name.

I found Gebby's obit, and have this excerpt to post here: He was born in New York, NY and came to St. Petersburg in 1977 from Rochester, NY where he was a District Manager for Frito Lay for 14 years. After he was discharged from the U.S. Marine Corp where he served during WW II and Korea and attained the rank of Staff Sergeant, he was a member of the Sentinels Drill Team providing military honors at the funerals of veterans in Sherburne, NY. They expanded it and began performing at exhibitions and he started his career as a marching band drill designer for high school and college marching bands including Syracuse University, the U.S. Naval Academy Drum and Bugle Corp., Northeast High School, Seminole High School, and Tarpon Springs High School in Pinellas County, FL and King High School, Blake High School, Plant High School, and Alonso High School all in Tampa, FL. West Genessee High School Band in Camillus, NY, the Kilties Jr. Drum and Bugle Corp. in Racine, WI, and the NY Skyliners Sr. Drum and Bugle Corp. all won national championships. He has designed the field shows for the Greater St. Petersburg Area Second Time Arounders Marching Band since 1990 and for 25 years, was the drill designer for Mid Atlantic Band Camps at Ferrum University in Ferrum, VA. where a gazebo was erected in his honor. He and his wife were the former owners of the Syracuse Brigadiers Drum and Bugle Corp. in Syracuse, NY. He was also a contest adjudicator, clinician, and consultant. For ten years, he was a school bus driver for handicapped children with the Pinellas County School System.

The Colts did this in 1970, marching the 2-2-3 subdivision. One bugle judge remarked (off the record) "It looks like my dog lifting his hind leg!"

Gebby also did Hamburg in 72 & 73. He tapped me for a few charts. And I added to a long list of lifelong upstate friends, who resurfaced in MSJ and the Ghost Riders. Also got my triple Kingsmen pedigree [ Kenosha/Anaheim/Hamburg ]

DCI HOFer Dave Richards honeymooned at the 1964 Legion Nationals. Gebby honeymooned at the 1970 VFW Nationals. Both marriages lasted. For anyone contemplating matrimony nowadays, plan to honeymoon in Rochester or Indianapolis.

I only witnessed Gebby getting (mildly) POed once, and the guys just looked at each other like "is this cat serious?". I'm repeating my request for bio material. The only thing I know about his background before the Brigs is that he told me he was once a jarhead. Did he ever play an instrument? Where was he born and raised? How did he develop his incredible talent?

Actually, 8-to-5 didn't happen universally until we got yardlines. It was the Chicago Royal Airs in the early 60s - Larry Kazmeric and Dale Peters instructing - who first cut the 30" pace proscribed by FM22-5 to a 24" glide step. This guy did the same thing in my town, we were still marching a 30" step in 1967. A few corps used about a 27" pace to create the illusion of more velocity.

We used to play the G-F bugles, and complain about the G-D drummers.

At the first World Open in 1963, I watched the Syracuse Brigadiers and told my companions that I wished whoever wrote their drill could write for my corps. At AL Nationals in 1964, I watched the Syracuse Brigadiers and again wished that whoever wrote their drill would write for my corps. At the AL Uniformed Groups Congress that fall I met Corky Fabrizio, who introduced me to that drill writer. It took me another three years to convince my corps director and staff to hire that drill writer. His eye-catching and perfectly-timed maneuvers were a major reason our corps won back-to-back VFW Championships. We had the new G-F bugles, and F-G drill. That drill writer is the third man in this photo.

Some guys work for peanuts. This little guy worked for potato chips. (He was a rep for Frito-Lay)

The man on the L has not been properly named yet. His real name is Al.

Please, when we get on to the man on the R, post as many clues as possible. He is a longtime member of the WDCHOF, but they have no bio. I will take on this task if nobody else (Peash?) can do so.