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-No facial hair (sideburns must be trimmed at half-ear length) -Hornline must wear hat at rehearsal -No eating, cursing, pointing, running, sitting, drinking (except water or sports drinks as given by staff) in uniform -No putting helmet chain in mouth -No walking around in half or partial uniform -No walking anywhere without shoes or sandals on (even around gym) -When putting horn down on the field, no putting it on yard lines -When setting a horn down must be in a horn stack of at least 3 horns -In some years, hornline must have had following items with them at rehearsal at all times: dot book, music notes book, two pencils, extra clean pair of gloves, dct/lip stuff that didn't have camphor in it (staff did random checks for all items) -No wearing other corps' merchandice (members-enforced rule) -No food in gym/sleeping area -No parents/non-members in gym/sleeping area -No parents/non-members on buses -No drinking alchohol except on designated "drinking" free days -If holding your horn with one hand, ONLY hold with right hand -Whenever staff asks you to turn around (rehearsal or otherwise), all members must only turn to their RIGHT -No laying or sitting down on the rehersal field (stretching was a good excuse to get around this one) -When in uniform, no member was to go anywhere alone (must be in at least pairs) -When entering or leaving the horn arc, hornline members are to walk around the BACK of the arc, never through the front of it -No stepping over horns (or horn stacks) when they were set on the ground ... I know theres more but right now I can't think of them.

2001

No, we didn't. We added it in for finals week though, just as 2003. Both years the only time we performed the wedge/kick was quarters, semis, and finals.

We did move from 7th in quarters to 6th in semis and finals that year. While not a huge move, you counted upping one spot in placement as a plus in other years, so this could go that way as well.

Tampa was sold out as well (both theatres)

No. In 2003 we were the only ones, but now Blue Knights, Blue Stars, Boston Crusaders, Carolina Crown, Magic, and Southwind all play on Kings as well.

Fluegel.

In 2001 you'll notice Regiment's horn sound was quite different than both the traditional Regiment hornlines and the hornlines of '02-present. We had a decent horn sound but it did not sound like Regiment so to speak. With the big staff change in 2002, much work was done to build us up (admittedly without all that much restraint) in order to give us the tools and foundation needed to get back to that sound. I can remember in 2002 JD telling those of us with more years left to stick around, saying that "this is only the beginning." '02 was essentially the beginning of a few year project to get the Regiment hornline back to performing at the highest levels while at the same time retaining the sound of the Regiment hornlines of the 'glory years'. 2002 was the foundation, getting us to explore the edges of dynamics and sound (boy, we did). As Clubb said, Pete Bond's mantra that summer was, " PUT SOME MORE #### IN YOUR SOUND!!" The edge that is prevalent (especially in the opener) was there intentionally, not only as a foundation for later lines, but also as a characteristic of the music. The final product of 2002 was not the ends the staff was moving towards, but merely a step on the way to the ressurection of Regiment's brass program. 2002 was also the last year the corps marched bugles. With most or all of the top six corps by that point playing on Bb's, coupled with our teaching philosophy, we did stand out as having a distinctly different (edgy, or if you will, crass) sound. In regards to the age of the hornline, yes we were younger then, but that did not have much of an impact on why we sounded as we did. Hahaha.. and no, I don't think the chicken salad fiasco finals week had any influence on the way we sounded (though I was one of the lucky ones). 2003 things were refined a GREAT DEAL, as you can probably tell. We focused on Pat Sheridan and Sam Pilafian's approach to breathing, and having those two on staff was an amazing experience. While I can understand 2002 being labeled as crass at times, I don't feel the same about 2003. From a marching member's perspective, there was a WORLD of difference between the two years. JD, Sam, and Pat spent a great deal of time working with us on how to play loud without compressing, creating forced, crass sounds. At the same time we retained our ability to take our sound to the limit (read: canon reprise), but without stepping over that line of good and poor taste in sound quality. There were individuals at times, as playing at that level requires a great deal of risk (though the payoff was worth it). The biggest difference was that the staff was very picky about NOT creating crass sounds in '03, and we used a distinct process (the Breathing Gym) to play at that dynamic level yet at the same time remaining relaxed and open with our sound. In regards to the contra issue in Canon, that was something that was addressed numerous times and it was an individual or two that had some issues (specificially with their attitudes). Needless to say those 'issues' were 'eradicated' after the '03 season if you catch my drift. 2004 took the refining of the sound to an even greater level. As a member, 2004's line was not as exciting to play in as 2003's (that could also be due to show design), but 2004's line was more talented. Teaching did not change much between '03 and '04, as we still focused on Sam and Pat's philosophies for breathing. Overall, the hornline was simply more mature (age-wise, and in regards to musicianship). I didn't march '05 so maybe Clubb can tell us but I would assume (from talking to members and watching rehearsals) that the brass program has continued with the same teachings. But in synopsis Nikk, it went like this: 2002: Create a LOT OF SOUND, build chops, explore edges of dynamic levels 2003: Refine the sound, more dynamic contrast, harness the power 2004: Continue to refine, etc While everyone has different tastes in what a hornline should sound like, I think that the '06 Regiment has certainly arrived as a top notch hornline. I don't know if they're doing any more this summer, but if you have a chance to hear Regiment's encore program this summer, DO IT. It is something I will never forget. <edited for language filter circumvention--LM>

While it may not be a specific policy, the fact that this corps in question has been doing the SAME things for TEN YEARS is proof that it is a corps-specific issue. The behavior is maintained as a part of the corps identity through the older members actions being reflected and carried on by the younger members. Drum corps puts a lot of emphasis on seniority and tradition (even negative traditions), and younger members are quick to act just as the older ones do and then later instill the same things in newer members. The things I listed in my original post were acts by a LOT of individuals in a few corps (specifically one), and by ZERO individuals in most corps. Considering this staggering difference, the "every corps has some bad apples" argument simply does not apply. If there were a few members in every corps doing those things, then that'd be a different story. Yes, while you may have ######## in every corps, the corps that allow them to have an outlet for their blatantly insolent behavior are the ones that should be held at fault. The corps may not have a policy to act disrespectful or crude, but importantly they don't have a policy of NOT acting that way, as most do. It is clear that they are not taught or told to respect others or conduct themselves with honor, and that is not something that should be merely overlooked as an issue of individuals.

Certainly was not the Vanguard. They were always a professional and upstanding corps during retreat and other such activities. I can only think of one instance during my four years that I marched in which a Vanguard member did something questionable.. and it was merely that, not any of the asinine behavior I mentioned.

Sadly, that isn't the truth. Drum corps isn't some utopic activity where all are the same. Corps have their identities (inlcuding corps with more class than others), some of which were a big wake up call to reality during my rookie year. Without standing in the ranks next to the other corps, it would be hard and pretty much close to impossible to know who conducts themselves in what manner; I considered myself a huge fan of the activity before I marched and yet had no idea. And again, there are individuals but the trend from corps to corps is usually pretty uniform.

While this is true with the uniforms off perhaps, with regards to behavior in-uniform, specifically pre-retreat and during retreat, this is FAR from the truth -- there are certain corps that choose to hold themselves to a level of professionalism during these times and there are corps that choose to disregard any and all tradition and respect for the activity and those around them. While there may be individuals that take the disrespect to higher levels, it was pretty clear by a corps by corps basis what to expect in regards to retreat behavior. Ask anyone that marched recent years (before they got rid of retreats). All corps ARE NOT created equal when it comes to etiquette and indeed CLASS they display during these formal and offical parts of the activity. Unless you think throwing pieces of candy at other corps while they're standing at attention is classy, or intentionally breaking ranks, or cursing at other corps, or making extremely CRUDE sexual comments, or what would border on complete verbal assault, then you're completely mistaken. This is an absurd notion that plays into the politically correct "everyone is nice, don't say anything bad about any corps because surely it isn't true" ideal that has become all too prevalent on DCP.

The Booster from this occasion is Dana Pelan, a corps alum that marched contra sometime in the 80's. I also believe he serves on the Board of Directors. He donated a very gracious sum to the corps to kick off a fundraising drive leading to the beginning of the 50th Anniversary, so the corps thanked him by coming and playing a concert in his backyard just before leaving for tour. Playing at his house has become almost a yearly thing now, with concerts there in '03, '04, and '05 (dont know about this summer). It's a great time, and after the concert the corps eats some REALLY good food and gets to play around in the backyard for a couple hours. This is one of very few positive memories of mine from (the rough) everydays of 2004.

Nikk, You can't forget about 1977-1978-1979 Three second place finishes in a row (including the .1 loss because of a penalty in '78), it was during those years that Rockford should have had their first world champion.

It's more like, "Northern Illinois just isn't big enough for the both of us..."

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hahaha!! Was it, LUX-UR-Y, LUX-UR-Y, LUX-UR-Y ..??? I asked another vet she said she thought it was "Were I with thee" repeated? Thats what I'm remembering but my sheet music (still have it) is up at school, plus that was cut so early I wonder if I still have the versions that included it. Was that what it was, and what piece was it in (I'm thinking WN II but not sure)? And also, who are you?

Good guess, but Wild Nights II is actually the longer of the two. Wild Nights I ends at the FIRST company front, where the corps snapped their heads to the left and then rippled backfield. To better remind you, the beginning of Wild Nights II was when the hornline was spread out facing backfield and there was a percussion feature staged front and center. The two were largely the same piece, though I remember we did receive the sheet music as seperate pieces, and often we would rehearse the segments individually.

Using last year to defend the program is completely fair, beacuse last year wasn't an "exception" from recent yeas of mediocre-scoring visual shows but actually the first year of a completely new visual design team. If that team was able to do that in just their first year with the corps, the future has no limits. In effect, every show design this visual team as put out for Regiment has been "wondeful" as you said (though it is just one). When you say that 'more often that not, phantom lacks in this department' you're comparing completely different teams of both visual designer and caption head which doesn't make sense. Considering that Regiment retained the entire 2005 visual staff, it is very fair to defend Regiment's current visual program by referencing last year's scores. In fact, it is the only comparison of recent years that is even valid.

GO REGIMENT!!!

18.00 for Regiment in drums tonight! That line is on fire!!

Better than some shows nowadays that literally seem like 11 and a half minutes of nothing BUT transition music with little to no coherent musical development.

I'd take chicken nachos (or nxasdxzsdwhatever) over the dog any day of the week

I know of someone flying in from Delaware as well as numerous alumni from Texas as well. Show of Shows is a great experience. Midwestern drum corps shows are certainly different than any other region. While the days of DCM are largely over, the midwest shows are still unique in a kind of romantic Americana way. The region is largely the cradle of the activity with the roots in small midwestern town American Legion/VFW posts. Its funny to think of it now though as when I marched myself along with many loathed the midwest tour for it's tiring sticky thick grass show fields, often less than stellar housing sites (with practice fields surrounded by corn fields), and in some places absolute po dunk small town crowds. Looking back though, the unique and often quirky aspects of the midwest tour (Petunia Festival anyone?) really provided a great part of my drum corps experience.