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First off, you come across as a 13 year old fanboy. Second, there is a comparison and many judges over the course of the season chose Vanguard Cadets over BDB in their respective captions. Third, when one considers content when evaluating the 2 groups, the Vanguard Cadets more than hold their own (especially in guard and brass). Both groups were strong this year. Your group lost. Thanks for telling us to "watch out for BDB". Perhaps you might have done the same for your California counterparts....

Enough with the war language. It is a friendly competition between two non profit youth groups. The loser doesn't die. Not amusing at all.

I bet the Academy design staff is calling mulligan on this one....

The answer to your question is yes. Blue Devils B Vanguard Cadets Spartans Genesis those 4 are locks. Pioneer & Cascades will fight it out with 7th Regiment, Music City & Gold for 25th

Blue Devils B Vanguard Cadets Spartans Genesis 7th Regiment Music City Gold Raiders Legends Colt Cadets les Stentors Blue Saints Racine Scouts int'l Tai Pei

Last year this weekend - 7/14 Mission Viejo BDB 80.2 SCVC 80.15 This year - 7/13 Laguna Hills BDB 80.2 SCVC 79.) I don't know if you have been paying attention to the scores out east, but 7th Regiment and Spartans are running 3-5 points higher than they were last year. Perhaps " the hurt" will be avoided :lookaround:/>

Or because the elite corps demanded more money from DCI for show fees?

Is that what they said? Was there a prop that exclaimed "we are taking a huge steaming dump all over your favorite musical by not portraying it faithfully. Oh wait, this show ISNT Les Miz, but we are using some material from it.....sorry " I think they were wrong for starting the show with 4 for nothing and then not keeping with it as the entire show theme. It's like they said silence is not golden. > quote name='Crown Phan' timestamp='1371052280' post='3266749'] Boston could've done more. I liked the show but they rubbed me the wrong way by saying the source music can't support a full show. It seemed like a cop out to try and justify 1812 overture.

And in 13th place..... Or 14th if Academy improves.

Horrendously bad management. quote name='floatdude' timestamp='1364164646' post='3253296'] What happen to VK ?

I wonder how the group that finishes DEAD LAST will feel....

Hopefully y'all got a better staff.... quote name='MusicCityDrumCorps' timestamp='1355803120' post='3234502'] Music City opened the new season with 261 in attendance at auditions on Dec 15-16. A photo gallery from the camp can be found on the corps' Facebook page. To view the gallery please click HERE.

You are the coolest man. Wayne & Scott J are lucky to count you among the ignored..... quote name='HollywoodNeoCon' timestamp='1356821935' post='3236165'] So I introduced my girlfriend to drum corps four years ago via a movie theater here in Chicago. Showing nothing but contempt for my former corps, she beheld the epic that was "Spartacus," lost her mind and promptly became the biggest Regiment fanboygirl since Cesario took his bath in melted Wonka bars. I say that with the utmost respect for all concerned, by the way. Kindly set aside the flamethrowers. For now, at least. Four years later, and the woman is as fully enmeshed in the activity as one who never had the opportunity to march (or parent a child who did) can be. She's attended more shows in the last four years than I had since aging out 26 years ago. Despite her Phandom, her growing collection of pictures of Dean, her knowledge of the names of Regiment age-outs and the farkakta teddy bear dressed up like a Buick at Finals Night, she follows just about every corps in the Top 18 via Twitter, FaceTube, YouBook, etc, etc, and has even donated to corps other than Regiment. For pete's sake, she even threw a few bucks to Crown once, even though they did that horse show that one year (instead of drum corps, she used to ride horses competitively, and that show just creeped her out, you see). The fact that she's even been retweeted by my former corps on occasion, while I apparently said something to Wayne or Scotty J once that ticked them off because I can't even get a simple, "Hi, bro!" is hardly germane to this discussion, but I say it nonetheless because it irks me to no end, and shows her unbiased (for the most part)love of this activity. In any event, through all of this, none of these corps, NOT A SINGLE ONE, has managed to do what the Gentleman Formerly of Garfield has managed to do: make her mad enough to refuse to donate money to a particular corps, by repeatedly asking for money. By "repeatedly," I mean every single day, 363 days per year (Thanksgiving and Christmas off, of course), ever since she gave him her email address to sign up for that live stream from "Angels & Demons" camp almost two years ago where they played the same five measures over and over and over again. Look, we realize this is a non-profit, high-dollar activity in an economy where grown men and women are back to eating Ramen noodles for the first time since college, and we also realize its importance as a uniquely American form of both cultural expression and competition. However, we're also both big believers in capitalism, so while we respect George for his persistence, we can't help but lump him in with those companies we refuse to do business with for one reason or another (we're looking at you, annoying Target Lady, and Taco Bell..."melty" is not, nor ever will be a word). We just never imagined we'd tell a drum corps to "take us off your lists." Please, George...dial it back. Just because you have someone's email doesn't mean they need to hear from you every single day.

I am shocked.......not.

Finally a corps is doing a tribute to Liberace!

Nice attempt at humor. too bad it failed. Try this scenario on for size - a drum corps organization applies for a grant. The entity that offers the money has no idea what this activity is all about. All they can grasp is that it is some sort of educational opportunity for high school & college age students, akin to a Summer music symposium. Ironically, many Summer camps and symposiums are staffed with an education faculty. I am sure college educators will survive if a drum corps decides to brand its teaching staff "faculty".

What's more difficult than being clean on Finals night? is it less entertaining? Difficulty for difficulties sake? Ugh.

Zingali? Brubaker? Brazale?

Like many corps that need to regroup after serious personnel changes or down years competitively, the Cavaliers should bring back (and update) a classic Cavie show in 2013. What do you think is the best suited choice? I say the 1992 Malcolm Arnold/Jack Stamp show.

They should do well in Independent World in Dayton

Congrats to The Reading Buccaneers members,staff & admin for breaking the record for highest score in championship preliminaries. Next up.... .06 jump to best of all time.

Best thread ever. Should be mandatory viewing at every corps initial design meeting - from the Blue Devils to the Blue Saints.

By replacing the director with more insiders? Doubtful. They should hire Howard Weinstein.

Mitch Rogers to Cavaliers Big name coming to Bluecoats, curious to see if he will get along with the program Coordinator

Nice try at redirecting the conversation. You should not be allowed to work with non profit or youth groups, period.