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Stu

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  1. I too have been entertained by the various Esport competitions. But there is no real human physical exertion involved, and that shift is what is germain to the future of competions like drum corps.
  2. I am starting to wonder if the future of professional competition is Esports like the Overwatch Videogame League. It has become a multi billion dollar industry and it is not only the youth who are moving in that direction away from competetive physical activity. And if AI is injected, even less human physical activity will be a part of the competetive culture.
  3. The Blast stuff was great, but also ran its course and died off. Only won a Tony because a new category was created. There are still a few elements of marching arts in the pro world; can be seen in Super Bowl halftimes, on stage at pop concerts, etc. But more in line with showband as opposed to drum corps. Janna Gavankar did recently do an arrangement and recording with Jersey Surf, but it was grounded in her own personal interest in drum corps and not for professional commercial reasons. What I think has got the drum corps apologists riled is that I believe it might be time for the pro world to put a kick into drum corps instead of the other way around. Your thougts on Blast etc?
  4. Sure, drum corps was a part of various groups Disney viewed as archaic twenty years ago. But it still supports my point which was/is that the drum corps activity (the kind many current established engrained apologists who claim their view of how it should be in say adjudicating is the only correct way) was/is not a viable option in the outside of the bubble world of professional entertainment.
  5. A number of years ago I was curious to what happened to the group. So I knew someone I had gone to university with who was working around that time in the HR dept at Disney, and I asked what had happened. The following, albiet from memory, was the response: (if you were a member you may know some of this background). Future Corps officially performed for the first time a few months 'after' the opening of Epcot, and was intended to be an on going entertainment group for the park (so it was not really created just for the grand opening ceremonies the moment the park opened). It was comprised of drum corps brass, drum corps drums, and on ocassion pit instruments as well as color guard; and most if not all players were DCI age-outs. It did grow into Encorps Entertainment. They performed at the park many times per day, so they were a full time organization. The ensemble mainly performed at Epcot but did venture out to exhibition performances at multiple DCI events, live television shows, traveled to the Indy 500 and as far away as Japan. Disney also created a like group called Magic Kingdom Corps to perform at Disneyland in CA. Here is the pertainate information. In mid to late 1999 Disney was noticing that many of the forms of entertainment at all of their parks were no longer drawing in the big crowds; mainly due to them being seen as archaic. And Y2K was around the corner!! This was especially a problem at a park billed as, come see the future! So according to who I contacted, Future Corps was indeed dismantled along with other groups because drum corps was not considered as a viable commercial professional option going into the new millennium.
  6. Actually, instead of 1 missing, there are 41 excessive years listed. šŸ˜
  7. Just wanted to wish ya a safe trip. And I am sure the kiddos will keep it fun for ya.
  8. There is a movie called Lean on Me; it stars Morgan Freeman and Robert Guillaume. In it there is a scene where they are in a room yelling at each other, I mean mad as he##!!! Then when silence finally ensues one looks at the other and calmly says, "I'm hungry, let's go eat." or something to that effect. Sort of describes me and Jeff.
  9. Didn't Magic have a deal with Disney at one time, or is my memory fuzzy?
  10. 1999 Scouts. One of the last hooras of loud emotional from the gut performances given by a corps before the new millennium shift in dci show designs. Great tribute to what would become archaic in just a few short years thereafter.
  11. Sounds like you are describing the basis for a modern drum corps show design concept.
  12. In your opinion you see that as fact. In that I will agree.
  13. My cousin and his wife just got back from taking their grandkids to Disney. I asked him how it went. He said they spent hundreds on flight tickets, hundreds on motel and meals. Then on the first day they spent hundreds to get in and they stood in line for around three hours at each ride. On the second day they decided to spend hundreds on the get in front of the line passes. They stood in those lines for about two hours for each ride. At least the kiddos had a blast!
  14. It is only flawed within your dogmatic interpritation and opinion of what defines good and bad or relative experience as it applies to drum corps. Some agree with you, others disagree with your assement. But I see no flaw in either your opinions or mine. My opinion is neither right nor wrong. Just like art is subjective, so is my opinion, and yours, of drum corps art. We both agree that there needs to be consistency in sheets and interpritaion in order to have fairness. But you rail at the thought of a possible paradigm shift messing up your belief of what makes for good drum corps evauation. I don't. It is no more serious than that.
  15. That is my point. Cohesivness and Structue are the complete anthisis of Performace Art presented in that manner; and it cannot be defined by any sheets nor interpreted by any person with any form of unified consistency. The only way a sheet could be written to accomidate that type of artistic design would be if it stated, "Whatever is being presented at that moment, no matter how random, is without error because it is exactly what is supposed to be presented at that moment."
  16. Why couldn't it work? Because the current WGI sheets and subsiquent interpretation require the performance to have cohesiveness and structure. There is no allowence for random improv dada type performance. (unless, of course, the goal of the performace was intended to finish dead last, then it would be successful). This is why I hated the way BD tried to present the dada at Cabaret Voltaire. They could not do it with respect to real dada and win DCI. Same would hold true in WGI.
  17. In a 'British' pub: If someone is drinking Dartmore Best the target will move left to right. If someone is drinking Newcastle Brown the target will move up and down. If someone is drinking Harvey's Imperial the target will move near to far. If someone is drinking an American Lager the darts will be thrown at them!
  18. But what if a true improv dada type troupe showed up? How would they be adjudicated and pan out competitively in WGI?
  19. Those are cool ideas!! And I tend to fall in that direction. But there is something to overcome (other that the snarling ney sayers, ha ha). Like I asked Spatzzz: If drum corps is to remain a 'competitive' activity, how would you balance the complete release of design creativity with the need for some kind of set criteria in order to prevent the results of each show from being a random moving dart board of individual open subjectivity?
  20. So you have seen every paradigm shift, from VFW to the inception of DCI to what we have now!!! Cool!!! Just curious. What changes would you like to see as the activity moves into the future?
  21. As someone who ventures into the professional world of entertainment, I 100% agree. But I do have a question: If drum corps is to remain a 'competitive' activity, how would you balance the complete release of design creativity with the need for some kind of set criteria in order to prevent the results of each show from being a random moving dart board of individual open subjectivity?
  22. Tell the performers in Future Corps I said hello!!! Oh yeah, Disney realized that drum corps (as you invision it) was not viable for the future of real professional music entertainment way back in the year 2000. Carry on.
  23. Go see Here Come the Mummies live. Tell me they do not move and play and wear costumes! Or go see a Broadway show and try to ignore all of the choreography dance and movement, even manipulating items in their hands, all in their costumes. Tower of Power, Stadium Rock Extravaganza. Nope they don't move, play, dance, LOL. And many in symphonies have been in high school or university marching ensrmbles, so they do have movement playing experience. But alas, so goes the never ending self serving closed minded inner circle of drum corps folk. Where if you have not performed in a corps you have no clue, no sound judgement, no cradentials to make so called drum corps evaluations. No wonder many on the outside professional world see the marching arts like this: If ya ain't been a marchin, a twirlin, or a spinnin, ya ain't good enough at tellin us folks what fer. We are drum corps dang it, and only respect them there folks who have done what we done to tells us what difference is between good bad stuff. But they are way off, oh so way off. The marching arts is actually full of educated elite ego snobs who over pat themselves on the back thinking that their way is the only right way for drum corps to exist. Anyway....
  24. A professional music expert with B-flat brass instruments, music theory, ensemble performance, balance, intonation, etc does not make them an expert at Nuclear Physics. That is true. So, you are correct in that it doesn't make you an expert at everything! However, it does make that professional music expert qualified to evaluate the aforementioned musical skill sets. By the way, you never answered the question: what key brass instruments do DCI corps use? And please, this is DCP. It is thread banter. Nothing more. So stop with the 'contact a corps' stuff.
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