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SCV '99: the first time I heard it, I couldn't even listen to the show all the way through...I listened to the opener repeatedly. I love how the opener just starts from nothing and gradually builds up. Sets the mood perfectly Phantom '91: love the hornline, love the music. Especially the Mello solo Bluecoats 2010: I know this one is recent, but I have a feeling this will be a show that I will never stop listening too. I loved the hornline that year, and the opener just did it for me. I can loop that thing for hours and not get tired of it.

lollllll i'm sorry, i get so defensive about that show.

Easyyyyy now, Cadets '07 was one of the best shows in the 2000s. As for the topic, I would have to agree with burgerbob...Cadets and BD 2000. They set a new standard. If you've never listened to BD 2000, you reallllly need to! One of my favorites of all time.

I have heard/seen this point made, several times, but I feel like one key thing is being completely overlooked....there are fans in the stands at every show that have no idea who the Troopers are. Why should this drum corps give in to this demanding (and shrinking) fan base? What good would it do? I'm sure these kids would much rather impress their friends from their high schools and colleges than impress the old school fan base that they have absolutely no connections with. I completely agree. I hate to say it, but when all of these young fans dream about the day they march, how many of them picture themselves wearing a cowboy hat? My guess...like 2 people. I hate that uniforms carry so much weight in this topic, but they really do. Cool uniforms will actually persuade certain people to audition at a specific drum corps. After all, you spends lotssssss of time in that thing over a season. If you're not in it for the competition, then what keeps you going after hour 6 of a rehearsal, when it's 105 degrees outside? They should be in a corps to learn about life? I don't care where you march. I don't care if you are the world class champion, or the last place open class corps, you learn about life in these 3 months. And the funny thing, COMPETITION is a HUGE part of life. Every single day is a competition, whether you realize it or not. Do you think the Kansas City Royals are cool with having the worst record in Major League Baseball? Hell no. They aren't going to sit around and brag about winning the World Series in 1985...they are trying to find a way to climb back to the top. I think it is the most selfish thing when fans want the Troopers to "go back to their roots." Trust me, the members are absolutely proud to be Troopers. They have amazing alumni, amazing fans and support, but they owe it to fans to move forward. They have to go in different directions until they find one that works. News for the old school fans out there: YOU CAN'T USE THE METHODS THAT WORKED 40 AGO. The thing is, fans are not patient...things do not turn around in one season (unless you have the judges on your side, but don't get me started on that). The Kasas City Royals can't just turn things around in one season either. They have to invest lots and lots of time into the right people, and eventually, they will be great again. And this is what Troop is doing. Let them be. Also, I see everyone saying on this thread that Troopers have lost their 'identity'. Oh really? So what is the Glassmen identity? It must be SO much better than Troops. I mean, they do place higher than Troop every single year. Maybe I'm just confused, because i'm not 23, so my brain hasn't developed yet. Right, 'Martin I. Zing'? I might be a young one, but I am not one to judge a corps by what people think they should do. I judge a corps by how much the hornline blows me away, how uniform the corps moves around, etc, just excellence in general. I guess that is why I am a huge BD fan.

I completely understand what you are saying, but at the same time... You can't tell me (when just considering the hornline) that Phantom '09 and '10 were at the same level as '07 and '08. I'm not talking about the talent. I'm not talking about placement. I'm not talking about the brass book. I'm talking literally about the sound. The king mello. You can't beat it. Wait till you hear the Blue Stars mello line this summer. It just won't be the same. Yes, Jupiter has come a long way, but not enough to equip 3 of the top 10 hornlines.

Fair enough. Honestly, I've never noticed it. But what about the rest of the show? Does that one note ruin it for you? What about the mellos? They blow my mind. Also, listen to BD's recording at 11:22. You hear a lovely lead euph (or did the leads march baris that year?) playing a high F wayyyy too loud. Sticking way out of the sound and breathing on the bar lines. This is in no way to bash either of these hornlines - '08 is by far my favorite shows of the top 2 as a pair. I'm just saying that I don't think it's crazy to say that phantom had just as much reason to win brass as BD did. I know phantom has a reputation for blowing their faces off...but I like that.

Hey if you don't mind, can you please provide me with a specific time in the finals recording when they sounded like 6th graders? I can't find it. (This actually isn't a sarcastic post. I'm far from a music major.)

Surely you were talking about the Colt Cadets in 2005 and 2007... My list, somewhat in order: Madison 2010 - yes, the most overrated, and it's only been like 7 months Phantom 2003 - but i still listen to it Cavies 2006 - so...musicless BD 2007 - overrated by the judges, I never really hear people talk about that show haha Cavies 2001 - cadets got robbed

Yes, really. Don't get me wrong, they definitely had their moments, but overall their book was my least favorite out of the top 6. The writing seemed so...artificial to me. I don't understand why Bluecoats didn't beat them.

Ignorance at its best. Maybe you should give that 'irrelevant' show another listen. Although I have not been a fan of the Cavies since 06, their 2002 show is one of my favorites to listen to. Have you heard the release in that ballad? You should go listen to the release in the ballad. As previously mentioned, the last 5 years haven't done much for me. I do feel like they opened up some last year, but the brass book was far too dull. I thought they were lucky to get 2nd in brass last year.

This is awesome!! Maybe the Cadets will actually get the credit they deserve this year. I think they were the most underrated corps of 2010. Thanks for the video, corpsband!

Zero. I watched BD first. To each his own - Don't want to see 2010 Cavies ever again.

I wouldn't that say i'm 'brand new'...I mean i've been a member for a little while. I have to start sometime. Not that I need to explain myself but I don't see what makes this topic any less legitimate than the other topics on the first page right now.

Haha. Oh really?

This. Haha I can't stand when people say the time! Even without a watch, I can usually determine how much longer the block will be by how hungry I am. And for the OP...I have marched with LDS people, so I totally understand your situation. Make sure to see if you will get that bonus year. We can all sit here and tell you our opinions, but I would love for you to have the chance to see for yourself. I promise it will be the greatest experience of your life.

Well played, sir!

Hey I have an idea...let's compare a skateboard with a Ferrari.

I think the 'kids' today are a little too busy busting their butts to put a lot higher quality shows on the field. I have much more to say about this comment, but i'm far too busy texting my mommy right now. anyway.. I actually have heard from some Cavaliers that they can't stand Crown. Of course this could be a few individual opinions. Hahaha. If people keep bringing it up, then it must be there.

......no. Read my original post that you responded to, buddy. YOU are the only one who said anything about the "bluestars". ...it's Blue Stars.

...........nah. (to both)

Dead on!! You can't beat King low brass. (my biggest problem with Jupiters) As awesome as this would be, I don't think it would ever happen. Without committing to one brand of horns, a corps wouldn't get the hefty discount like they usually do. We can dream though!

It's part of the 'Quantum Marching Project' that the Jupiter horns are a part of. So you may have something there

http://www.bluestars.org/story.php?story_id=586 sad day....

wait. are you talking about the Colt Cadets? surely so.

Bluecoats hornline was ridiculous. So awesome. Should have outscored the Cavies in brass.