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Anything by Hannum, Rennick or Hardimon. AND, I really miss Jim and Murray in DCI. All of the above wrote MUSIC for percussion that made the winds sound better. They resisted the "dig me" approach that sometimes permeates our activity. Their "music first" approach is one reason they stacked up so many trophies in their career.

While I think the wording. is rather rude, I would push back against them measuring themselves against the best. If the best are in San Antonio and they're in Nowhere, Delaware, they're in fact measuring themselves (and scoring lower than) a few Open Class Corps.

Tom Aungst being on tour hasn't hurt them either. The man knows how to clean an ensemble. 2010 Regiment won drums and were 6th place.

Fred Sanford wasn't already in the WDCHOF???

Paul Rennick said in an interview that the recent labor laws passed in California placed a huge financial burden on the corps. I also spoke to an industry insider (who won't be named, but works for a major musical instrument provider to many DCI groups) and asked them the same question. "How has this law hurt SCV but Mandarins, BD, PacCrest, etc aren't effected by it?" His response: "They ARE effected by it, they are hiding it better. They are in the same shape SCV is in but they are trying to fight thru it and hope for the best."

Just throwing this out there.... With it becoming more and more difficult and more expensive to do business and run a non-profit in California, would the San Antonio Vanguard make sense? Professional sports teams have made a move before. Garfield is no longer the home of Cadets. The Houston Mandarins? The D/FW Blue Devils?

I heard in 89, "if you're ever gonna march, you better do it quick. DCI won't be a thing in 10 years." I marched in 97 and heard staff members from other corps telling each other "we're lucky to still be here. This whole thing will be done in 10 years." I think "DCI won't exist in 10 years" is a perpetual rallying cry for the gloom and doomers. I do love SCV. More often than not, they have my favorite show every season. Sadly, if DCI can keep marching on without 27, Bayonne, Suncoast, Glassmen, Freelancers, Guardsmen, Sky Ryders, Magic, DeLaSalle and too many others to list, they can keep on going without SCV.

Just a reminder: I didn't bring Paul, Sandy or Michael Gaines into this discussion. I'm just pointing out that it's wrong to single them out in this. They were hired to do a job and they did it. They did it very well. Unless the financial management of SCV is in their contract, thus their responsibility, it might be time to move on from the "blame the percussion writers" phase of this thread.

The health and strength of an organization isn't judged by its trophies (as anyone who marched from 2000-2017 will tell you)..... 2000-2017, which includes several Rennick years. Glad to see he's included in the lexicon👍

You clearly have an axe to grind with the Rennick's, so I'm gonna let you grind it (if that makes you feel better). I don't think this whole thing can be laid at any designer or staff members feet, nor can it be laid at any one directors feet. I think that each of the last 5 directors walked into a worse situation than the previous one did and it finally became too much to fix. But, hey, let's blame the Rennick's and the pile of trophies they brought to SCV.

Boston, Spirit, Blue Knights and too many other corps to mention have satellite camps in Texas and other states that are not their "home" state. This isn't a novel idea that only SCV uses and they weren't the first to do this. Texas has an enormous amount of talent and to not try to tap into that would be foolish. Even if Paul and Sandy were running the drumline this way and routinely finishing in the 5-10 range, they still wouldn't be to blame for this. To have the run they've had in percussion is something that SCV hasn't done since the 70's. Did Ralph, Scott and Jim win a Sanford? Yes. Did any of them have the sustained runs of top 2 finishes? No. What they do clearly works. I've met Paul and Sandy. I wouldn't call them friends, we've literally only met once or twice. They were both very friendly and the multitude of people that I know who have known them for years have nothing but positive things to say about them as people and teachers. Again, SCV isn't folding because of Paul and Sandy Rennick.

I have many, many friends that have marched percussion for SCV from the late 80's thru the early 2000's. Lots of people from the South-Alabama, Tennessee, a lot from Texas. Paul and Sandy have done nothing but put Jonz back where they should be. Back where Fred, Ralph, Scott, Jim-n-Murray had them for each of their respective tenures. People can bash the Rennicks and complain all they want, but you can't connect the dots from "the Rennicks are from Denton" all the way to "SCV takes a year off."

Can you please screenshot or copy his post?

Blue Knights need major changes. That show was way too hard for them and it just didn't work. At all.

1978-PR 1979-BD 1980-Spirit 1981-SCV 1982-BD 1983-Gahfield 1984-Gahfield 1985-SCV 1986-BD 1987-SCV 1988-BD 1989-PR 1990-CBC 1991-Star 1992-Cavies 1993-CBC 1994-BD 1995-BD 1996-PR 1997-SCV-not even close for me. That show was amazing. 1998-Cadets 1999-SCV 2000-Cadets