theCHEZman
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BD, Cadets, Crown, Bluecoats, SCV all have "similar" talent in the MM's.
BD, Cadets, Crown have a staff that can clean a show to get it to medal fairly consistently.
BD has the design team that effortlessly can write programs that fulfill the current judging criteria and in some years, even please the fans.
BD is and has been since 2007, the corps to beat. Cadets and Crown have been the consistent challengers THEREFORE:
My top three PREDICTIONS for 2015 would be:
BD
Cadets
Crown.
The rest are just "less predictable".
Bloo had a great 2014 as Phantom had a great 2012 but I need to see 3 consecutive years in the top 3 or close to it to put them up there.
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I was referring to the spread between BD and Crown since that is the thread we are in BRASSO.
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I did see BD and agree they should have won but Im just not buying winning by 3 points. I think the number management was ridiculous.
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I thought Crown should have beaten SCV and been much closer to Cadets and Bloo and all should have been closer to BD. Sorry, but that gap from the top was just silly and I don't buy it. Yes BD should have won but that margin is herd mentality judging at its best.
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Top 3 (BD, CADETS, CROWN) not necessarily in that order.
MORE electronics. (thanks Bloo, unfortunately they all don't do it as well as you).
NO Narration from the Cadets. They got that out of their system this year.
DCI adds extra credit to judging system so BD can break 100 at finals.
Cavaliers move up.
Crown designs a more controlled achievable program after getting decimated for being risky after BD closes in on 100 with park and blow and pose.
Cadets go edgy after getting reamed for being too rehashed and old school but still march like robots.
Bloo does narration and does it so well everyone does narration in 2016 and they go back to electronics.
And repeat.
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Great job Crown. Kudos for taking the risks you did this season.
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Congrats Cadets. A medalist in this competitive season is something to be proud of.
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Congrats Bluecoats! An amazing show and season..you deserved the silver.
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A spectacular season for sure. Top bunch were just sick.
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Cadets and Bluecoats perform very well. Cadets have more depth/responsibilities and march better but Bluecoats have "the show" this year and will pop GE scores tonight I believe. Cadets will need to pop some great visual numbers (where they've been leading) and will need to get percussion up. GE is opinion caption and depends on panel but Bloo has great audience responses and momentum going into tonight. Im not sure if the panel tonight leans more towards one corps or the other and past number assignments really have no bearing on the present. We've seen judges flip all season.
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Agreed. The crazy fast drills I think peaked in 2009 when every other night, we would get a report on DCP that a brass player or two fell during the Cadets or Crown show. Also agree there are other very effective ways of presenting a visual show without marching 220 BPM.
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I'm watching the shows with my two eyes. The marching program is effective, not difficult. There is enough demand to satisfy the sheets but im not seeing where it is difficult. Now MY DIFFICULT may be different than yours, but when brass are playing their runs as they are backing into blind forms etc, that is where I find a show difficult.
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I don't think the Cadets necessarily choked in 2012 but rather had significant design issues, were weaker in guard and that left them vulnerable to a very strong Phantom that year. Last year, The Cadets were getting chased by SCV at the end and again, design issues and a very weak guard left them vulnerable but luckily their percussion win allowed them to medal a mere 0.1 above SCV. This year, Cadets are stronger in captions across the board but are vulnerable in GE depending on the panel so it will be close once again. It will come down to opinions.
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BD show marching wise is not close to difficult and I laugh when people say they do everything so well it looks easy. They stand and play or move slowly more than any of the top corps. Just watch the webcast. They have the best designers in the world who write effectlively to the sheets and have arguably the best talent on the field or close to achieve. My favorite BD show since 2011 but lets not call it difficult. Crown's show is difficult. Cadets constant movement and uber exposed drill is difficult but BD's drill is not. THIS is the reason you don't see Cadets doing whiplash drills anymore or may see Crown come out next year with slightly less ambitious brass/marching responsibilities. It really is not rewarded as much as in the past. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the change but the change is here.
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hmmm, quarters finals Bluecoats topped Cadets percussion
Quarters
Judge1 0.2
Judge2 0.1
Semis
Judge1 0.1
Judge2 0.7
That was my only comment.
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Wallace I think you've isolated the key design failure of this (very well executed) show. The music of Copland is music of the people. On the other hand, the show's selected quotes derive from presidents' perceived need to inspire people during (with one exception) wartime. The linking of American identity to wartime identity is hugely problematic, especially when promoted to youth and framed as art.
I think the show is designed to demonstrate America's journey has been a struggle at times, and her willingness and determination got us through depressions, wars and determination like the space program, were exercises to motivate its people to endure and push to better our society. The cheesy end is in itself, a celebration of our our determination, drive, hope and promise.
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Crown, be proud of your energy, your determination, your willingness to put that level of demand on the field and to succeed. Judging is opinions so when you're up, be grateful, and when they push you down, be humble. IMO, the top 5 this year are phenomenal and should all be within a point. Good luck tonight.
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Final push guys. I want to see this show push past SCV and grab the brass caption at finals, even if they don't manage to get the Ott overall.
Really not sure what you are saying?
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The thing that irks me is that Blue Devils seamless perform their program with ease from the get go in the early shows. I think that's an indication that they're really not challenging their kids. Yes they perform well, yes they are amazing, but if the kids are so good I think you should challenge them with consecutive years where the show is hard enough that the beginning of the season is very rough and the end of the season is very refined.
There's a sense of reward watching a corps literally struggle through a run through in the beginning of the season and see them conquer a show by finals week.
I never get that sense of reward from BD. These 20s comes too easy for them, so my applause seems to be more directed at the designers more than the corps. It's fine, but it has been kind of boring to see a corps that consistently gets 20s. For a niche activity that is dwindling away, this sort of emphasis on what is considered a perfect caption makes it more niche I guess. It almost feels like BD shouldn't compete because the consistency of giving them the best score is so absolute that it is becoming more and more tolerable. Sugar doesn't taste so sweet when you have it everyday.
The Cadets need to figure it out. 2007-2009 was some of the most beautiful drill in terms of demand, design, and execution. I didn't think they really cared about whatever was happening with the scores, the audience reaction, or the general perception. 2008's closer just made me chuckle at the fact that whatever watching before me was actually happening. That aura of brashness was a breath of fresh air. They might not have won but the entire DCI community probably acknowledged the kids as being serious Olympians.
Cadets please go back to not caring so much. The members are not that weak but I get the feeling that you're starting to shelter them from the judging sheets. Bring back that whiplash drill and crazy hornbook. You guys have been playing it too safe and too cautious and you are dangerously losing your roots of being DCIs biggest risk taker. When you're consistently a high risk taker in terms of excellence, you falter often and succeed less. But that one or two times you get it right, the pay off is totally worth it. The shows have been lifeless and I feel like you're resorting to shoddy methods to just get points rather than truly generating effect. I feel as though Carolina Crown has inherited the Cadets' willingness to take risks with difficulty and not care if you stumble and have a rough year. DCI probably won't last for much longer (I hope I'm wrong) so why not go for the jugular.
1. BD is successful because they have the best design team by far. Their talented MM's certainly help but it's a competition between designers. I'm not referring to which shows on the field are the most popular, but rather depth of program, content, flow, layering etc.
2. Cadets are doing a patriotic show for their 80 the anniversary. They know the end is cheesy but with the way this corps moves and performs, they can be cheesy for the last 40 seconds. Will they move in a clearly different direction next season, I'm sure.
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One of the percussion judges decimated Cadets and that closed the already small gap between Cadets and Coats. Judging panels (with the exception of BD), make a difference.BD was incredible.
Personally thought cadets should be much further ahead of Coats tonight.
Also feel Cavaliers are better than their score is suggesting
All the corps were very strong though.
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There's a Bluecoat corps that's only back .15 that might have something to say about that.
One percussion judge dumped on Cadets big time which decreased that already small gap between Cadets and Coats last night.
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I think Cadets and Bloo were about 0.2 apart in Allentown.
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Yep,that sounds weird. Cadets are pretty respectful group and I tend to think WE are more competitive than the kids are sometimes.Ever been on tour? That's pretty mild IMO, though I don't really ever remember seeing much of that from the Cadets. Hoppy has many, many faults but he runs a tight ship in that regard.
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Nice job Cadets! Certainly not lacking demand in that show!
2015 Predictions
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As a Cadets homer, I would like to see them take on music they NEVER played and rarely if ever played in drumcorps. I think they are better when they are dark, energetic and risky versus when they are lighter, cute or emotional. I do agree with their migration to slightly more controlled movement as those crazy drills of yesteryear are not rewarded but the less than stellar performance levels that sometimes come with it are noted by judges. Cadets, please be risk takers again.
As a Crown fan, I love that they are risk takers and I think they do energy better than anyone and after 2013, they do emotional very well also. My biggest concern is their visual with the exception of 2013 is still less effective than it should be considering the demand they have so some work here. Also uniforms just clash so much.
In 2012 they were like watching a vanilla milkshake all over the field and last year it was my blueberry yogurt all over. Perhaps different colors brass vs. percussion vs guard.
Cavaliers, just keep moving in that direction.