CrownBariDad
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54 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
I know you are kidding but I saw people get out of line and do that very thing.
I wish more folks would have been a little more skeptical and actually checked out the situation at the entrance.
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1 hour ago, ZTWright said:
I get paid to do what I do too, which is design. So now you're telling me that I can't speak my opinion from a designers standpoint?
Yes, Crown has stayed around 3rd and 4th. That's also called stagnant. We should be seeing some better results after 6 years of working together, and I'm still saying 6 because this show was worked on through Covid as well, and what we got was not one cohesive thought throughout the entire show. The performers got us 4th. The design team would have had us lower if it weren't for the performers on the field, who paid to march with Crown.
I'm sorry, but I'm just not buying into the whole "give them time to mesh and flesh" anymore. 6 years to see results, and all we've seen is a fall from 3rd to 4th and staying stagnant. Thank God Crown is still able to pull in the talent.
Didn't Crown lose part of their design team to BAC around 6 years ago? It takes time to see the results or rebuild.
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After the last standing ovation at Finals, I turned to The Wife and said "I don't really care how they score it, that show was FUN!"
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OK -- After watching some of the DCI classic videos shown in LOS, let's say a corps marching its anniversary year does a throwback to those early years of unison drill. And let's say they march it to near perfection. (We'll ignore the music portion for now.)
Would it score better (or the same) than more modern drill writing? I'm hoping the sheets allow for either style drill and give the proper credit for excellence of execution.
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1 hour ago, brassboy said:
It was in the opening paragraph of Jeff Griffith’s finals write-up for DCI:
https://www.dci.org/news/true-blue-devils-take-20th-gold-in-golden-anniversary-finale
Ok thanks! I saw that but apparently skimmed too quickly thinking it was about the Corps more than the event.
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6 minutes ago, Orwellian Wiress said:
I know that member safety is the first priority of DCI. Buuuut on the other hand, imagine all the sick shows we'd have if they got rid of all the safety stuff
(guys this is a joke. please don't get mad. although a dci show with pyrotechnics would absolutely dominate general effect)
I was hoping Blue Stars would do something with the cannons. Maybe compressed air shooting out streamers? Or is compressed air verboten?
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1 minute ago, oldbandguy said:
Dan Potter has it on his FB page this afternoon. He has some pretty good connections so I'm thinking it's probably a good number.
Probably as good as we're going to get until DCI publishes something.
Thanks!
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2 minutes ago, oldbandguy said:
2022 Finals attendance was over 23,000. That's PAID ATTENDANCE. A good bit higher when you factor in those in attendance that did not have to pay...like other corps members, staff, volunteers, Impact Band and parents, USMC etc.
Do you have a link to this info? I couldn't find anything official.
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On 8/14/2022 at 3:15 PM, brassboy said:
I read 20,705 for finals.
Going back to the original topic: Do you have a link for this?
I found this in an old DCP thread. The numbers that I have match the ones posted back then. Just doing the LOS era.
2009 17,865 Indianapolis, IN
2010 15,765 Indianapolis, IN
2011 17,363 Indianapolis, IN
2012 17,820 Indianapolis, IN
2013 20,381 Indianapolis, IN
2014 21,378 Indianapolis, IN
2015 22,085 Indianapolis, IN
2016 22,200 Indianapolis, IN
2017 23,342 Indianapolis, INI found a different count for 2015 -- 24,638 from DCI.
I had thought I found the figures for 2019, but I was on my phone and lost the link.
It'd be nice if DCI would follow other "Major Leagues" and post the attendance along with the "box scores". (Yeah, I know. They want to get scores out way faster than the final attendance count.)
Anyway -- still looking for confirmation on the 2022 attendance. Thanks!
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42 minutes ago, CrownBariDad said:
I seem to recall the video shown in LOS showed Bill Ives' name. I could be mistaken since I recognized him right off.
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48 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
I guess I wasn’t there when that was shown. And I was in there a lot. Too bad because I would have preferred seeing that rather than the “Changes” video presentation.
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23 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
They wouldn’t let him set up at LOS. The drum corps museum rented the space in the convention center with donations. I don’t know if it was even acknowledged on the DCI website.
Dan did a nice interview with Bill that was shown several times at LOS and promoting the offsite exhibit.
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4 minutes ago, Tim K said:
Whether or not Saturday was DCI’s fault is hard to say. I’ve been told Colts game can be a disaster too. You may recall that when LOS hosted the Super Bowl they were hardly prepared for that event. Unlike other stadiums like Gillette or Met Life, LOS can’t modernize and have things such kiosks where you can order food which would have eliminated long lines for concessions. If LOS can’t handle a crowd like DCI which is not exactly a rowdy crowd, they’re in trouble.
I think though Saturday did expose DCI cracks. The organization of the shows is top notch, no question. But did you think the 50th was handled with the fanfare it deserved? No program book? Michael Boo’s passing may have been a partial reason why, but I know of some people who volunteered to produce a history. No video montage featuring 50 years of classic corps? The history exhibit DCI did not produce was relegated to an inconvenient spot. In my opinion, all of this speaks volumes for cracks in the organization which may account for why more serious issues are handled improperly or not at all. I think not rehiring people laid off during Covid, which in all fairness may be due to lost revenues, is taking a toll.
We REALLY wanted a 50th Yearbook. And I missed going to see Bill's Drum Corps history exhibit -- yes, it should have been in LOS not somewhere across the street. (He was sitting behind us at Finals, so we did have the chance to say Hey. Our streak is intact.)
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1 minute ago, Terri Schehr said:
I bought my BIG 3 tickets Thursday at noon. I must be crazy. I just keep reminding myself that I really enjoy watching the marching members perform and I want to support them.
Me, too. But The Wife is now teaching full time so it might be a solo trip next year.
I am on the fence about that 8 hr drive. We'll see.
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35 minutes ago, lawdn said:
My experience from the different days was that some scanners could read the tickets from my wallet app (Apple) while others could only read the barcode from Ticketmaster app or website. This despite Ticketmaster suggesting tickets be added to wallet ahead of time to avoid connectivity delays. Staff at the gate had to instruct attendees how to pull up the bar codes, resulting in delays. Maybe people had figured this out before arriving Saturday, but it could have worsened the already bad delay Saturday.
We were lucky. I think we got the same young lady all three times we were scanned in -- she even recognized us on Friday and Saturday. She knew how to read the tix from my Apple Wallet, but it did take a couple attempts to succeed.
It did seem simpler and faster when scanning paper tickets in years past.
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6 hours ago, skevinp said:
I predict everyone will move up several spots.
Its the only way to not tick someone off.
But you just ticked off the BD fans because BD is at the top already and can't move up. And now has to share 1st with Bloo and Boston.
I know -- sometimes you just can't win even when trying to be nice.
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24 in Pacific Crest's FB photo.
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2 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
Much easier to get in the rose bowl in 2007 than yesterday.
Plus many of the articles I've found only give 3-day totals.
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1 minute ago, dcifanforlife said:
Are we talking paid attendance or overall attendance? DCI sold more tickets for Prelims, Semi Finals and Finals in 2022 than any other year at LOS. On Thursday night there were more than 2,000 tickets sold than tickets scanned at gate. Many people didn't use their tickets for Thursday and didn't sell them. Which was great for the seat poachers since there where a lot of great seats open.
I guess whatever DCI uses as "official".
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14 minutes ago, dcifanforlife said:
New record for Indianapolis
What was the previous LOS record and the official new record?
(Google is really useless since about 8-10 years ago. I want attendance; Google thinks I really want scores.)
EDIT: Google now just points me back to this thread. Ugh!
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OK -- New LOS record for Saturday, then?
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1 hour ago, brassboy said:
I read 20,705 for finals.
New record for Saturday?
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They announced Thursday's and Friday's crowds were record breaking. But, I didn't hear anything about Saturday. Someone here posted it was a sellout.
Anymore info? Thanks?
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11 minutes ago, JohnDF said:
Soloist:
Let's also not forget Charles, the Mandarin's singer... He was also marching Contra when he wasn't singing. Not a one trick pony.
Another one who seemed to just "appear" from out of nowhere when it's his time. We never think to check the horn line. He also is a great performer. Like I said to a fan sitting behind me -- I'd like to see where he is in the next 5 or so years.
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Finals 2022 -- Saturday's Attendance?
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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Yes -- *somebody* (DCI or LOS) should have been in charge of "line communication".
-- Letting folks know Express lines were open for those w/o bags.
-- Trying to usher folks from the long line into the newly opened shorter lines at the East Gate.
I forgot my CompSci queuing theory, but I think one line that splits into multiple service lines (the old bank tellers analogy) works better than several separate long lines. It breaks down when folks don't know there are shorter lines ahead and just assume their line is all they got.