BrassTeacher
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On 12/20/2022 at 3:55 PM, 84BDsop said:
No....Suncoast continued for a couple more years after their 89 finals run.
As others have pointed out already, folded after the 89 season, then did not re-emerge until 1992. It was basically a totally different organization by then.
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Did anyone ever time the one at the end of "Requiem" in Suncoast's 1984 show?
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13 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said:
Yes I see how my words could be taken as insulting.
What offended me was assuming the worst from someone and slamming for a perceived insult Instead of informing them how they were mistaken. Too many memories of asking valid questions to contractors and getting insulted to my face because I was “too stupid to see how great the product was”.And capitalizing NOT and EDUCATED was meant for emphasis and not as an insult.
Fair enough.
I forgot to mention earlier, but there is an additional, separate policy and procedures manual in addition to the district policies linked that is in place by the instrumental music division. It is not available online, and is a 3-inch-thick binder. A fair amount of it clarifies district policy as applied to instrumental music-specific conditions. It also puts additional, sometimes more strict than district policy, items and procedures in place.
I am no longer "official", so I do not have a copy at home to scan.-
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Also, I can vouch for at least one drumcorps (Music City) that has similar, but not as extensively worded policies in place, as well as in-person training for all staff
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3 hours ago, JimF-LowBari said:
Not going to speak for Kathy but in my case it’s not confusion but lack of knowledge. So I asked and only got a bunch of heat and list of items of what teachers should not do with students. What was missing was looking for and reporting abuse which your post mentioned. Of course this is a big part of dealing with abuse.
Folks some of us are NOT educators so we need to ask in order to find out. At least we are taking the effort to find out. Is it too much to ask not to be insulted when we ask to be EDUCATED?
Did it not occur to you that your wording could possibly come across as insulting?
I was serious when I asked if you really wanted 20+ pages of training documents typed/cut/pasted. It exists, and we have to be responsible for knowing all its content and following all its policies. I emphasized some words in all caps because I was too lazy at the time to use either the bold tool or the italic tool.
You apparently were offended by a couple capitalized words. (I see you responded in like fashion above).
I was offended by being lumped in with a group of people labeled as having no training, no knowledge on how to handle behavior, or having no skill.
If you want to look into a standard set of policies and procedures:
https://www.cobbk12.org/page/6380/section-j-students
https://www.cobbk12.org/page/6193/section-g-personnel
There's more if you want, and yes we are trained in such.[EDIT] I am not an employee of Cobb County Schools. Former employee/currently a semi-retired not-paid-by-the-school-system adjunct.
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12 hours ago, LoveKathyG said:
I wouldn't expect music educators to be experts in student conduct. It's a complex and challenging field of work that people devote entire careers to mastering. Music educators shouldn't have to possess that level of expertise. Let the music educators do music education and let the people who are expert in handling sexual assaults, harassment and misconduct take care of those cases.
Wow. Just wow.
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1 minute ago, JimF-LowBari said:
worked IT and have no idea so was asking for a non-angry response.
But after seeing REALLY and EVERY I see I wasted my time.Sorry you feel that way. Your wording in your first response seemed inflammatory, hence my "I'm not sure if you're baiting me" comment.
Not sure why you consider your time wasted, you got the response you wanted without me having to scan, cut, and paste 10-20 pages of policy manuals. Policies that are made quite clear that you can be immediately terminated if not followed.
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5 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said:8 minutes ago, Sutasaurus said:
Perhaps Brass Teacher isn’t carrying a torch and a pitchfork? Just sayin’
Seemed be a flaming response imo.
Was always told to inform rather than fire back….Oh, I'm supposed to be ok with such accusations?
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Just now, JimF-LowBari said:
So what training does a music educator have in this regard?
I can't tell if you're baiting me or not, so here's the answer:
Depends upon the school, but these things were stressed in multiple classes, even BITD:
1. DFTK
2a. Avoid being in a room alone with any student
2b. Always have a witness when talking to a student alone
3. Do not socialize with students away from school, unless it is a planned, chaperoned, school activity
4. Do not add students on social media
5. Do not call, text, or email students (unless it is your school account). If you must call a student, make sure the parent(s) is/are aware (They really want their All-State results ASAP)
That is the gist of personal student-to-teacher interaction
Do you REALLY want me to go through EVERY detail and policy regarding how field trips, football games, concert performances, etc. are expected to be handled? I don't feel like typing 10 pages of details unless necessary -
On 1/9/2022 at 2:07 AM, LoveKathyG said:
While I acknowledge that I don't know enough about how drum corps operate on tour in the modern era, it strikes me that music educators are ill-equipped to manage issues of member conduct.
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8 hours ago, BigW said:
Thank you. But, the camera can be adjusted before show start to frame the field the way the presenter wants to frame it for the entire show using positioning and the zoom lens and then left in that fixed lens setting and position, can't it?
it still leaves a lot of options one could do to better present the program within your description of the rules framework, unless the lens fixed setting, angle of presentation camera to field, distances from camera to sideline are all specifically mandated.
Yes, it can be adjusted before the show. In CV's case, the guard goes from the 10 yard line on side one to the 5 yard line on side 2, So it has to be set so that no one is cut out of the video. A wider-angle lens compatible with the camera was experimented with, but it gave a "fish-eye" lens type effect to the image. CV's camera is mounted on a stand on top of the press box of the stadium they use, and using a stand any higher would make it susceptible to being moved about by the wind. Various tilt angles have been tried as well, and what you see is the best solution found in that regard.
The rules do not allow the connection of an external microphone, the built-ins must be used.I imagine the other corps have experimented in a similar fashion, and are going with the best solution that they can find under the rules.
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Again, video/audio editing is not allowed at all in videos submitted for judging. The camera cannot be zoomed in or out, or even adjusted at all once the show starts. The entire show is required to be recorded in one take.
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1 hour ago, Musicroyal said:
Atlanta CV:
Trumpets - 12
Mellos - 10
Bari - 12
Tubas - 6
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13 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:
IMO, the numbers are meaningless. judging a show through a high cam view only where there is probably sound editing happening? no thanks
Sound editing is not allowed, nor is video editing
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On 12/3/2020 at 11:17 AM, WilsonStaff said:
Here is a video link for part of the show. Is there a way to buy these old shows?
https://www.dci.org/news/flashback-friday-1988-suncoast-sound
For those that don't know, all the rifle work in the drum solo was written first (By Karl Lowe), well before any music. John Campese watched Karl go through the rifle work, and then wrote the drum solo to match it.
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Suncoast Sound 1984
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Jacob is great!
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37 minutes ago, hostrauser said:
Crown's debut with sloppy-but-massive-GE "Stormworks" show
Sloppy?
Controversial shows
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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Ah yes, my rookie year at Suncoast. Reactions at each show were quite mixed, and seemed to progress throughout each individual performance. People generally liked the drum solo (a mash up of parts of "The Wall" by Pink Floyd, and "YYZ" by Rush), most everyone loved "Aquarius", up until the jarring ending of it, then usually shocked silence as the fabric wall rose slowly from the ground. Reaction to "Requiem" varied, but no matter what was felt, it was felt strongly. Depending upon how an individual reacted to "Requiem", "I Can't Get No Satisfaction" was either that it was cool, or confusing, or induced differing degrees of irritation or anger. "America the Beautiful" was almost universally well-received. How did I know all this when I was on the field? You guys all know that you can read the crowd as the show progresses. In addition, many people would come up and make comments if they saw us walking around between our show and retreat.
I will mention that the show was emotionally draining for those of us performing it. In fact, towards the end of the season, we would never do a full run-through at the end of rehearsal on a show day. The staff learned that we could only perform the entire thing once per day, mentally speaking. So, end of rehearsal run-throughs would always leave something out, sometimes we would just skip a movement, or do a movement visual only, or "bop" one movement, or even just arc up and play part of the show, anything the staff could think of that would keep us from mentally "completing" a show.