Tim78

Outdated show concepts were a symptom of the larger sickness...

By the end of the 90s, the drumline for the corps had near Top 12 talent (check the Pioneer drumline scores from Quarters and Semis in 1999), a decent music book in 1999 and 2000. That was in spite of the fact that the corps did lose a lot of drumline members to the Top 12, hornline members to the reborn Southwind from Lexington KY. The corps started to really fall apart after 2001, missing Semis by .05 that year. You would think that after the 2002 season, there would have been some discussion about the music direction and operations of the corps to remain competitive, but no. Roman dug in and continued trying to play music that was routinely being panned by the DCI judging community. I am not trying to "throw darts" at Roman on social media. But really, is this what you wanted your legacy with Pioneer to be? Thrown out of DCI for your own malfeasance. If your organization was to serve as a youth musical organization, then give up control and let others to direct the organization as such.

"It was a dark day in the history of the DCI Drum and Bugle Corps Activity because they sacrificed one of their own……" More like Roman sacrificed his own organization. The best way he could have helped the corps was to step down and not be involved, but he didn't and DCI doesn't want any part of it. It is a dark day for his legacy.

Have not attended a DCI show since 2011 and very little time to attend any shows. DCI is not doing themselves any favors.

Yes it is. I am glad that you concur.

They died the years that they made Semifinals?

I guess there was no pension when he retired from Pabst and Social Security doesn't cut it? It's unfortunate he never could see anyone else leading the corps beyond him. RIP Pioneer.

Yes, DCI is making Pioneer and Cadets the examples of a newer, more rigorous standards to be held to. Other corps should take notice in case they have things they are trying to hide too.

I don't know who MagnoliaFan25 is, nor do I really care, but it looks like they sensationalized the Alumni meeting by claiming that "Roman has absolutely no intention of releasing his stranglehold over Pioneer". From what I read in the meeting notes they posted: #1 – EXPANDED BOARD OF DIRECTORS Pioneer must maintain a Board of Directors that includes a minimum of five people that have not served in that position before. In response to this requirement, the Board of Directors will be expanded to nine members. The exact governance structure, bylaws and appointment process is currently being developed by an independent nonprofit attorney and governance committee. It was also clarified that the Interim Board of Directors does not have the legal authority to remove current Board members, or make legal decisions on behalf of the corps without permission of the existing Board of Directors. How exactly can anyone draw the conclusion that Roman will not let go of the corps? From reading this, it sounds like the Interim CEO and IBOD are working with the current board to change the structure, probably to dilute Roman's power so he is NOT controlling the corps anymore. This board structure appears to not be in place yet, as it has to be legally restructured. And does no one else not recognize the board structure that has yet to be put in place? This is literally the structure of every other drum corps board out there, so I am sure this plan is what DCI will sign off on and has recommended to Pioneer. I would rather see the drum corps community focus on the future survival of this group. There is an underserved youth music community in SE Wisconsin that could benefit from a Pioneer corps that is run with the proper oversight. Stop focusing on past mistakes. DCI will not sign off them coming back if there aren't proper mechanisms in place to ensure member safety. So instead of spreading gossip and misinformation, I dare anyone here to come up with viable suggestions for the good of the alumni of Pioneer who are fighting valiantly to save it.

I agree, optics on this are bad right away, which is why the Interim Board of Directors removed him within 48 hours of the information being presented to them. I would call that being transparent and sending a message that they are operating in the best manner possible. Now I want to know who at SCV should be investigated, as rmurrey74 said is still there.

Who's still at SCV who should be gone?

I think Pioneer is learning the value of transparency. Once it was pointed out that Scott Stewart enabled a sex offender in his organization, Pioneer removed him from the interim board, which is why he is no longer listed on the corps' website. There is much that the corps has to learn, but it's happening now. It will take awhile, but I believe the new board and CEO are making the correct moves and actions.

Wrong Case family. The drum major from 1996 was from Brown Deer, WI. Larry Case is from the Chicago area.

My post from the other thread: Bill was corps director when Pioneer finished in 17th, 16th, and 18th place (1999-2001)

Bill was corps director when Pioneer finished in 17th, 16th, and 18th place (1999-2001)