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What's the most common phrase heard from a Ohio State graduate? Would you like fries with that... Indiana, our Indiana, Indiana we're all for you. IU!! (With a small Go Blue on the side...)

Unless you consider his treatment of his ex wife and his "incestuous" relationship with his cousin are considered to be just as much of his legacy as relativity, space time, and peace activism. No historical discussion is complete without them to describe how his clock ticked. More relevance to the EOTB creators.

That said, even though not a fan of BD's 2012 program, after watching some of the complexity of the drill and the nuance of their brass, I would be at best petty if I didn't include them in the top 3 conversation.

I actually, I think BD captured the absolute motif of dada perfectly - "I'm so much smarter than you are that I could put a pile of crap in front of you and you'll love me for it." Coincidentally, dada imploded because they took this notion to the extreme to the point that they snobbed themselves away from having an audience. The difference between 2012 and 2013, IMO? Despite having just as much of an avant garde flavor, 2013 seemed far more audience-inclusive. The avant is punctuated by the accessible. 2012 did not have that effect.

Actually, science isn't proving him wrong, simply that his theories don't translate to the subatomic level. No one has been able to disprove him. As far as the content of the show, Also Sprach is critical. Zarathustra taught essentially that man moves in cycles of revelation in a path to further enlightenment. When that enlightenment is reached, the next revelation presents itself. Neitzche took that thought and ran with it. The show describes how Einstein was able to make sense of apparent disorder. The park bench takes this order and implies there is yet a further revelation, impossible you say? As difficult to digest as it might seem, the narration is critical to the development.

I know International Class has seen a little bit of action over the past few years; but, what is DCI's actual presence in Europe and Asia? I know the UK, Belgium, and the Netherlands do have a respectable corps presence; but little of that seems to translate into the 2nd week in August, presumably due to the cost of transport and travel to the US. However, would a larger DCI presence overseas create increased interest and funding to make more trips possible? Since consensus will probably never exist about the next direction to draw new audiences, perhaps the next ready-made niche already exists and is simply untapped. It is always more desireable to tap an existing market than it is to fabricate a new one. It is easier to sell to existing customers than create new ones.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but hockey and soccer set me back a good 5 grand a season. Scholastic programs were free, but to be competitive to MAKE the scholastic team required a season long commitment of play at beaucoup bucks in other leagues outside of the scholastic season. Don't like it? Don't play. To participate at a competetive level,one had to accept those terms unconditionally. Talk about no control whatsoever. Teams were set up by geography and left no room whatsoever to try "free agency." I think this scenario fits your challenge. I suspect, with today's fiscal climate, we're going to see this is more and more of the norm.

Still 2008, but boy did this year make it a difficult choice.

Agreed about the place filler. The implied and inferred revelation theme associated with Sprach underscores how the one theme transcends the perceived absolutes of the other capped with the visual of the crown. That stuff is too complex yet tidy to be a coincidence.

Very inclined to agree. Top corps uncategorically recruit. I've seen it on multiple occasions, must frequently from staff members working their "day jobs" with students they have from September to June. Also, loyalty is a very important issue to the middling corps. Most of these groups have a fair number that find the loyalty to their corps supercedes all; however, I've noted approximately 25% are looking forward to moving up next season. Also, staff members at top groups at unsuccessful auditions will strongly recommend auditioning at less strenuous corps, often personally contacting friends at that group, with the strong recommendation to get some seasoning and come back next season.

Better analogy is La Liga. Everything the league has is designed to serve Barcelona and Real Madrid, both undeniably among the international elite. The end result: the league is billions in debt, viewership is on a double digit decline, merchandising outside of Barca is non existent, and speculation is the league won't survive the decade. Invest, invest, invest, invest.

We experienced sort of a balanced approach. Coming from a semis level band, DCI selection was celebrated, top-notch visiting corps were routinely hosted which the entire band would assist and observe, corps staff were present at clinics for critique, local shows and/or Big Loud Live were an organized event, etc. But, active auditioning was not actively encouraged until later in the HS career. It was a very sound approach to give the young marcher significant seasoning to become fully aware of what they were getting themselves into.

Neither are gymnastics or figure skating, and yet here we are. Perception supersedes reality.

Correction: excellent conception poorly conceived.

All very true; however, I think most lose the precise distinction between athletics and sport.

Perhaps they should choose an MLS model. If you're so sure about the Premier League, does that mean Crown's going to pull a Leeds and tumble into Open Class - over invest in a championship only to lose sustainability to the point they virtually cease to exist? I think the better analogy is La Liga, where outside Barca and Madrid, there's little left to speak of and the league is on the verge of collapse due to placing all of their eggs in the single "they're the best of the best and deserve the most" to the point of the collective leveraging itself to the eyeballs and the league invariably shrinks, all suffer, and eventually all shrink into oblivion. The comparison is almost too eerie to be true.

Sort of, except 2008 had a few small props - the pilum (spear) defined the hubbub around the whole program (of course aided by Spartacus' smarmy sneer).

Although I support the concept of parity through reduced "free agency", I believe it remains the elephant in the room not because there are those that refuse to consider it, but rather the logistics of pulling it off are untenable. The basic fact that would ever undermine the prospect is that the members are actually a contingent of the paying customer - through fees, travel, training, etc - and that most are constricted by their own financial parameters. Even a whiz-bang snare from Idaho with limited resources will only have a small list of viable corps, despite the potential to play in the top 3. As much as we all would like to see him/her achieve their pinnacle, their financial reality severely diminishes the possibility. Also, even though the NFL doesn't fit the cap model argument cleanly, ownership meets in a collective to decide what is best for the group as a sum of its parts rather than sole individual needs, although that of course plays into the equation. Thus, small market teams such as Green Bay and Pittsburgh are given the green light to broach more creative methods to succeed comparably to the "big boys". In a true dog eat dog environment, they would have both faded away 40 yrs ago. As it currently stands, they've got how many championships between them? Those two small market teams the country wouldn't normally give a hill of beans of consideration generates billions in revenue in merchandising, branding, cross-related advertising, etc which all organizations get a share. This is because the owners have realized that the health of even the smallest has bearing upon even the greatest and manages their affairs to preserve this and help it grow. Imagine if the current perennial 14-18 level corps had that same benefit. Jersey Surf, with their very creative approach to merchandising last year as 2015 World Champions?

If the Glassmen hit the ground running next season, I suggest their show in Toledo, it's got to be roughly the same distance for you. I'm finding I'm getting better enjoyment out of the 10-16 corps anyway.

I think 45 minutes early qualifies as reasonably timely.

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Nicely said, even if you're on the wrong side of the Blue Water. Wink.

This is just an assumption, but I believe so. Aside from the VERY agitated cadets families, the remainder were very naive about drum corps. Just think of all that future revenue lost!

Read again - anthem at 7:30. Parking and gates are sufficient to cover 80000 in 15 min.