The fundamental issue I was trying to get at when I started this thread was that 2 very solid Drum & Bugle corps with excellent GE lost to this over amplified show that finished with no musicianship, but a dance routine to an extremely loud recording,, Madison & Boston played instruments,,, and played them very well. After the initial intro, the pit was never adjusted, and the keyboards were painful from down front as well as up top,, we had folks at our hotel in Allentown sitting all over the stadium and they all had the same reaction,, what we didnt get was that the judges have been around a long time,, who is telling them that over bearing sound systems are to be sscored higher that excellent Drum Corps that play their intruments.