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  1. 5 hours ago, Chief Guns said:

    Larry 333 knows BD is hated by most, probably was hoping a mob mentality would be created and we would get 40 pages of BD bashing. 

    Thanks to @jwillis35 for shutting that down with straight facts. 

    Larry probably read Jwillis comment, flew into a rage, and is on his way to SeaWorld to punch a dolphin in the face lol. 

    As long as he stays the hell away from the whales! They're spoken for!! 😉 🤣

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  2. 9 minutes ago, Fred Windish said:

    Random thoughts from a Flo viewer of the latest Allentown event from someone with certain knowledge.

    DCI.org officially announced slightly over 10,000 paid in the Saturday attendance. I saw an estimated number of upwards to 12,000 siting, standing in, behind the upper dividing wall, off to the sides on the grassy places, and down on the track. At an event of that magnitude and the format for this year, so many additional non-paid in the facility are easily possible. I can explain that if requested.

    To my eyes, this could have been was biggest attendance in 20 years as stated by DCI. The Friday complete crowd looked to be roughly 9,500.  What’s not to like about those numbers in an economy like this?

    Most issues of handicapped accommodations and movement can be solved by parking above, being dropped off near the rear of the front grandstand, and entering one of those two Gates. DCI temporarily establishes and monitors about 100 handicapped parking spaces up there. Entering the venue this way can mean having to deal with no stair steps, whatsoever. DCI maintains and monitors a large number of wheelchair accessible seating with benches for assistants between the grandstand levels. Best seats in the house, actually. Of course, you need to know about all this well in advance of your visit.

    As for accommodating all corps on a single day, rather than using Friday and Saturday, this is exactly what took place for years in DCI’s first half history in Allentown. In the 80s decade, DCI featured 27 corps per day in competition. One year, 57 corps all together played Allentown in one weekend!

    Allentown has space to park, and remain in place, about 150 buses, trucks, and vans owned by competing corps.

     

    Besides all of the above info . . . . this year’s Allentown Weekend was absolutely incredible. Easily one of the best of 46 years. I’ve attended/watched every one of these! Unbelievable talent on display!

     

    What were your impressions, positive and negative?

    I would particularly like to hear about the new location for the DCI Marketplace (a decision DCI was forced to make). I didn’t attend in any manner this year, so can’t evaluate. Thanks.

     

     

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    Allentown has space to park, and remain in place, about 150 buses, trucks, and vans owned by competing corps.

    That's roughly 10 - 12 drum corps.

  3. 17 minutes ago, 84BDsop said:

    Not reading 90 pages but....are the Conquest stabs in the show?  I didn't hear them in the Atlanta performance.

    Yes, but it's very subtle with the brass and the pit in the first part of the show. Quite honestly I probably would have missed it if it wasn't pointed out to me.

  4. 2 minutes ago, Maleguena1988 said:

    So, the rankings on DCI.org mean nothing to performance order next week?

    correct.

    Performance order for Thursday is determined this way:

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    Order of appearance at the DCI World Championship Prelims (August 10 in Indianapolis) will be based on the reverse order of finish of scores averaged from events in San Antonio, Atlanta, Winston-Salem, and Allentown. Open Class participants will be seeded in the first blocks of performing corps based on reverse order of finish from Open Class Championship events. In the event a corps is not scheduled to appear in a major regional event, their last score received prior to that regional event will be used for averaging purposes.

    https://www.dci.org/news/explainer-how-performance-order-is-set-for-2023-dci-tour

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  5. 6 minutes ago, denverjohn said:

    I read that sentence about the cities/events but I did not see the number 4 anywhere.

    I interpret that the intent was to average 3 numerical score each one week apart. Using 2 numbers weighted equally from the same weekend would devalue San Antonio and Allentown.

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    Order of appearance at the DCI World Championship Prelims (August 10 in Indianapolis) will be based on the reverse order of finish of scores averaged from events in San Antonio, Atlanta, Winston-Salem, and Allentown. Open Class participants will be seeded in the first blocks of performing corps based on reverse order of finish from Open Class Championship events. In the event a corps is not scheduled to appear in a major regional event, their last score received prior to that regional event will be used for averaging purposes.

    based on the reverse order of finish of scores averaged from events in San Antonio, Atlanta, Winston-Salem, and Allentown. - Based on 4 events- San Antonio, Atlanta, Winston-Salem & Allentown

    In the event a corps is not scheduled to appear in a major regional event, their last score received prior to that regional event will be used for averaging purposes. -  Using Boston as an example (there were others too)....They were not at W/S. So this says you use their last score (which was Atlanta) for averaging purposes.

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  6. Just now, denverjohn said:

    My interpretation is that only 3 scores are averaged for each corps.

    I corps A only attended Atlanta that is one of the 3 scores.

    If corps B attended Atlanta AND Winston-Salem then those 2 would be averaged and that number would be one of the 3 for seeding (along with San Antonio and Allentown).

    If corps C attended Winston-Salem only then that would be 1 of the 3 averaged scores.

    If corps D attended Nightbeat and Atlanta then those 2 scores would be averaged to provide one of the 3 for seeding.

    read the last sentence provided by DCI. It's a 4 score average.

  7. 2 minutes ago, brassboy said:

    Sorry, I should say it's possibly wrong. There is nothing indicating that scores are doubled to give everyone 4 scores. In fact, DCI's article is very UNCLEAR exactly how they're handling those that participated in 2 vs 1 show in the Southeast. For Allentown, they averaged Atlanta/NightBEAT for those that did both. For those that only did one or the other, the only use the single score. For Prelims, it's unclear if they will be using the averaged Atlanta/NightBEAT score used for Allentown; average of 4 for those that did all 4 and average of 3 that only did 3; or double the Atlanta/NightBEAT score for those that only did one. 

    read the explanation. if they were not in an event like W/S they were to use the score for the show just prior, which was Atlanta.

    Order of appearance at the DCI World Championship Prelims (August 10 in Indianapolis) will be based on the reverse order of finish of scores averaged from events in San Antonio, Atlanta, Winston-Salem, and Allentown. Open Class participants will be seeded in the first blocks of performing corps based on reverse order of finish from Open Class Championship events. In the event a corps is not scheduled to appear in a major regional event, their last score received prior to that regional event will be used for averaging purposes.

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  8. 1 minute ago, ediblewaffles said:

    Yes, but Bostons Atlanta score gets doubled since they weren’t at NightBEAT

    Order of appearance at the DCI World Championship Prelims (August 10 in Indianapolis) will be based on the reverse order of finish of scores averaged from events in San Antonio, Atlanta, Winston-Salem, and Allentown. Open Class participants will be seeded in the first blocks of performing corps based on reverse order of finish from Open Class Championship events. In the event a corps is not scheduled to appear in a major regional event, their last score received prior to that regional event will be used for averaging purposes.

  9.     Allentown 4 show average to determine prelims order
    1 Blue Devils 95.775 94.24375
    2 Carolina Crown 95.438 92.81275
    3 Boston Crusaders 95.475 92.79375
    4 Bluecoats 95.25 92.78125
    5 Phantom Regiment 91.975 89.55
    6 Cadets 92.125 89.51875
    7 Mandarins 91.988 89.2315
    8 The Cavaliers 91.05 88.19075
    9 Blue Stars 87.55 86.0125
    10 Troopers 88.525 85.72825
    11 Colts 88.163 85.547
    12 Blue Knights 84.688 82.4065
    13 Pacific Crest 83.825 81.8125
    14 Crossmen 85.388 81.772
    15 Spirit of Atlanta 83.938 79.9845
    16 The Academy 82.025 79.11575
    17 Genesis 78.275 74.81875
    18 Seattle Cascades 74.625 70.69375
    19 Madison Scouts 81.913 79.672
    20 Music City 80.25 78.5375
    21 Jersey Surf 74.975 72.6375
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