wilder1966

Wish MS good luck? Winning isn't a game of luck, not to worry, 17th place is held just for you.

I hope they will find sympathy, kindness, and a very warm welcome from their new cohorts in the open class.

It should be hilarious!

Hello Drum Corp Fans! Wilder1966 is back again to keep it all real here. Now comes a new marching band from Madison. Exciting! Can we hope for floats, batons, piccolos, tubas, and high stepping drum majors? One can only wait with bated breath for the big moment. Question: Where are the Real Madison Scouts?

Save your money. Same Director = Same Result

There is still an enormous presence of Covid 19 on all levels, not to mention its variants. A 2021 season is not practical, or possible. It may serve your organization (formerly known as the Madison Scouts) best to use this spring/summer season to create a unique identity for your upstart organization. In each of the series, you are focused on the image, and history of the World Class Madison Scouts. This upstart group needs to find their own way, in all ways. The real Madison Scouts have their own identity. Wishing you well with your musical upstart.

Have they turned off the comments on the Behind the Fleur series? Kind of strange that would happen so early on. Does this organization (formerly Madison Scouts) intend to compete in the World Class? Reflecting on what made the real Madison Scouts the legend they were wont go far in defining this new upstart. Try to find an original direction for your organization, and create an identity of your own.

Yep, Wilder1966 is back again by popular demand! Keeping it real for the 2021 season. As for the 2020 season, an opportunity for the Madison Scouts to reorganize, and assess their plans. It may be just what was needed, and bring some matters to the table long overdue. A look back at their history could be a good starting point.

Is it true Jersey Surf has it in for the group formerly known as the Madison Scouts? Yikes!

Are you referring to the group formerly known as the Madison Scouts? Yes, that band may be coming to town. The real Madison Scouts are now defunct. This post will bring a ton of angry denial, but then again, the truth can be painful.

Fair enough, corona reference redacted as too serious in nature and scope. All drum corps will be affected to some degree by this pandemic, but will hopefully not prevent the 2020 season from a timely start.

Who appointed you editor in chief of this thread? Any member here is welcome to express a grievance is they wish to, and we often do. Spend more time at that "important" job of yours, likely saving our galaxy from imminent disaster. We do appreciate our superheros!

That's great news for the fearless and incredibly incompetent MS administration cohort. They can now use the old tried and true "pandemic cost us the title" excuse to explain the coming low scores. Chalk one up for the executive team! As they say, " a pandemic in time save nine"

Certainly not a threat as you chose to suggest, but a prediction that the justice comes from the judging box. Once it becomes evident that the coed diversion was not a solution whatsoever, but merely a cover up, and scores are not improved from recent seasons. The problem never was the membership after all. Most of us know well the problem is, and has long been the administrative staff itself. They can run, but they cant hide from the evidence forthcoming from the judging panel. To some who found the entire scheme to be a fraud, this is justice. Again, the unfortunate victims are the hard working, high hopes recruits, many of whom have no real knowledge of what brought this on to begin with.

To say the glory days are over is way understated, where they were over 10 years ago. As long as the great dictator/misguided executive director remains in power, their hold on 16th-19th place holds tight. His board, a blundering band of misfits, phonies, and wanna bees is the most unqualified panel of losers to ever fill these chairs. I wish those seats were only delegated by performance so every one of them would be removed immediately, including the grand master of failure himself, the Executive Director. Poetic justice will be served this summer of 2020 to this group of gross incompetents, and the effects will be rippling in the drum corp arena. It is too bad however that so many well meaning, hard working recruits have to pay the price for the deceitful, and offensively ingenuine BOD, and executive director. Historically, following a tyrannical leader brings negative returns, and certainly no pity. Gee, that happened in WWII, didn't it?

On or around June 20, 2020 the cold hand of DCI judging is going to slap the silly, fairy tale ideations of the misled MS enthusiasts into reality. The entire charade gets exposed for the breach of trust that is was from the very first deceptive announcement. Sorrow? Pitty? NO. It is what the weak deserve when they do not take control of their own destiny, and decisions, but turn them over to a failing, manipulative bully. When it was time to man up, the staff instead decided to girl up. To all the misled followers; the rubber meets the road in June. The Cavaliers thank you.

So let's hang our hopes on the downfall of better corps? A great plan, and the MS admins concurr. Fake optimism is ineffective. If all goes well they won't descend lower than 16th place. Great corps don't fuel on deceptive schemes. A fake board, failed director, and false narratives will yield deserved results. This you can count on.

Just an FYI, my blistering remarks are no more reality based than your images of a burning clarinet. Some comments are said just to arouse a response, and apparently that worked. I'm sure a woodwind player may be deeply offended by your graphic image, but only if they took it literally, or personally. It also occurs to me that your images have again nothing to do with the Madison Scouts in 2020, which we are constantly reminded to stay centered within. This is a talk forum, not a venue for do it at home psycho analysts. Otherwise, no apologies.

Only improvement here is to add ALL woodwinds, ALL band instruments, ALL band uniforms, and ALL band directors. Now that's a fire!

I agree with the Cavies championship bidding, They should be in top form this year with great staffing, and some new talent on board from a troubled organization. I've been a Cavalier fan since all the way back to 1969, and know to expect them to always rise to the competition with their own brand of entertainment. I am also proud that they maintain their identity, and traditions with no apologies to the politically correct. Maybe others will learn something from the Cavaliers, but most likely wont. Long live Cavaliers!!

No apologies here, and if you are offended in some way then have something to say about it. A critique of my language and intent is pointless. In other words, bring something to the table.

With the "moderate Madison infusion to Rosemont" thread now forced down, I had to take my comment back here. A bit of honesty first; over many years 2 corps were my favorite for many reasons, The Madison Scouts, and the Cavaliers. Both being historical, legendary, and innovative. In the months this thread has run, the reality of the MS transformation has set in. Its hard to imagine what the MS may look, and sound like, but one would expect great change. With just one last all male corp standing, I feel compelled to protect them like an endangered species, and somewhat hope that others might form to further protect that class. I know its a long way from politically correct, if there is such a thing in this case, but I am hoping the Cavaliers bring an even higher level of greatness to the field this year, and the MS inheritance cant hurt. Sorry if this offends some of you, but some changes just are not all that welcomed. I'm not ready for the NFL to go coed either if that helps.

Having read all of the posts in this thread from day one, its amazing how diverse the opinions can be. One issue however continues to bother me, and I wondered if anyone else senses that "something about this entire issue just isn't right". Its the feeling you get knowing "there's a rat in the cellar". Its really just so basic at every level. Nobody could miss it.

Through all this strife the Cavaliers grow stronger. They are a great organization and earned their way in with strong leadership, identity, and vision. These are qualities I no longer see in MS. I do not believe anything from MS admins or PR, where credibility is gone. It is a new day.