Cappybara
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22 minutes ago, ContraFart said:
And you are always right there too to give me snark.
Someone's gotta keep ya in check
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Should we return the favor and make this thread about the Bluecoats?
An organization, that I may add, I have nothing but respect and admiration for. No pettiness here-
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3 hours ago, ContraFart said:
Anytime BD is given good faith criticism, BD fans think it's pettiness and bitterness.
Whenever BD is given “good faith” criticism, somehow you are always in the thread. Weird coincidence
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On 8/14/2023 at 1:02 PM, bluecoats88 said:
so only march while playing whole and half notes, stand still while playing difficult sections of music, if you are moving while playing something more than whole and half notes, then make sure it is in half time, and if all else fails run somewhere in a random blob as opposed to holding any type of form during the movement. Yeah no thanks, I would rather watch my corps challenge it's members with multimetered music while moving and being completely innovative and unique, and still pulling it all off at as high a level as the corps that does have of what we are doing.
I highly suggest you watch BD’s encore performance video uploaded to their YouTube channel to allow yourself to correct your grossly misinformed and incorrect assertions. Or don’t. DCP this season has taught me that it’s sometimes better to let people just be wrong
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1 hour ago, MikeRapp said:
BD has their “tropes.” Like them or not.
But to imply their shows are technically uninteresting and/or simplistic is truly absurd.
Exactly! There is no doubt BD has a formula, anyone who is being objective admits that.
But simplistic or easy… nope.
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1 hour ago, Ranitidin said:
One month-ish later and I need to go to orthodontist because my jaw is still on the floor. Congratulations for the well deserved title, Blue Devils!
Since you've done Fellini (film) and Matisse (painting) maybe let's shift to the literature scene and pull a dark 2024....Edgar Allan Poe-themed show would be nice. 😉
Lucky for you, the BD thread has an orthodontist 😎
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3 hours ago, BlueStainGlass said:
What blows my mind is how people can watch the show and then write something like this
"Scatter, stand still. Run to a new set, stand still. Move props, stand still. Run to a new set, dance. Scatter again, stand still. Crowd the front side line, stand still. End."
I’ve lost hope of most (but not all) BD critics being remotely objective with their criticisms
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1 hour ago, wigwam said:
Interest would most certainly decrease.
Exactly. DCI’s website crashes half the time once scores get posted. To pretend that interest in the activity wouldn’t decrease is just wishful thinking and not logical at all.
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31 minutes ago, Gantang said:
I agree with that last part 100%. Sadly, Madison fans have been shouting for change, and the black hole that is the BOD ignores the pleas. As much as I'd like to have objective and thoughtful conversations, I know that people are frustrated to the point of anger.
My hope is that The Corps with Madison in its Name will find its identity, attract BD-level talent, have the best-designed show of 2024, and rise from the ashes to push for its first championship. THAT will show that everything they've done in the past four years was a brilliant move.I’m assuming you’re being a bit tongue-in-cheek with that last paragraph? Competitive inertia is very real, and the only corps who has maybe been able to buck it is BAC, but that was because they gained competitive inertia in 2017 from a series of championship caliber staff hires. And despite those hires, they have not been able to get the gold in the 5 years the staff has been together
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Just now, TenHut said:
This person should have already been identified and onboarding. Maybe he/she is.
I think I may have read it in one of the Facebook groups I’m in, but it seems that the successor has already been chosen and DCI should, apparently, be in good hands. That’s just vague rumors though
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2 minutes ago, scheherazadesghost said:
Thank you for not infantalizing non-competition.
There are countless models outside of the 2021 season that speak to the value of non-competition. That's simply the only example the activity has ever permitted to exist and therefore also brings value to the conversation. Qualitative data is still data even if only a fluke.
I also agreed it's literally never going to happen. Doesn't change my stance on the matter. What I'm pointing out as that instructors and designers should have the freedom to disconnect their creativity and instruction from needing to beat other corps within a flawed judging system in order to influence the budget and recruitment (and therefor organizational survival.) Right now, as always, the incentives for great making great art and excellent educational opportunities are sullied by competition, IMHO. I want to see what drum corps looks like without that. That's all.
There’s no need to infantilize it, it’s still a valid model and suggestion. It’s just one that I think will greatly decrease the interest both marchers and audiences have for the activity, and therefore I simply don’t agree that it is the right model for DCI.
And I completely agree with you that it would be nice to allow corps to make art without having to worry about certain things that competition introduces, particularly budget issues. And that is why I’m in full support of sharing winnings equally or basing it off of who travels the most. Financially, I am all for any move that promotes parity within DCI and allows corps that are struggling a bit more financially than others to have as many resources as possible for a good and safe member experience. Doing so would prolong the survival of this activity
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6 minutes ago, valjean said:
You're no fun. What if judging was done exclusively at box level?
Then the brass and percussion captions become essentially useless. With the corps’ electronics influencing so much of the mix that gets relayed to the box, it would be nearly impossible for the brass and percussion judges to make an accurate and meaningful assessment of the hornlines and pit/drumlines. Pretty sure visual proficiency is also judged from the sideline (I could be wrong about this), so the quality of assessment of this caption would suffer as well.
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50 minutes ago, Chippy said:
What the heck is a Timeout message on Flo? Stops the stream. It happened a couple times last night. Middle of Bloo, and couldn’t get the stream back. I changed tvs really quick but missed the rest of that show. Never hear back from Flo. 😡
I didn’t hear about anyone else having this issue, nor did I. With that being the case, this wasn’t a Flo server issue and rather an issue with your ISP.
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55 minutes ago, scheherazadesghost said:
I'll do you one better.
Scrap the competition and share the take home winnings evenly. Or, heresy, base it on who traveled the furthest to get there.
Literally nobody here wants that except me, pretty sure. It's the hill I'll die on though.
I am totally on board with either sharing winnings equally or basing it on who traveled the furthest. Both of those things would help the survival of as many corps as possible.
Scrapping the competitive aspect of DCI will be the swiftest action one can take to create the downfall of this activity.
And before anyone says it, yes I know the COVID year happened and no, the actions of audiences during a once in a lifetime global pandemic is not representative of how this activity would continue if scores were eliminated for the rest of the activity’s existence
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47 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
Maybe randomize order and have finals judges not watch any shows during season. Every Corps at finals is their first time seeing them.
That… does not sound like a good idea. Apart from there being no way of enforcing judges to not watch the shows or scores beforehand, the judges give much more accurate assessments with more reads. Familiarizing with a show, especially for the sideline judges, is important so they know where to be in order to get the most comprehensive sample of the skills being displayed as possible. Otherwise you get situations where the percussion judge is on side 1 and then has to sprint to side 2 to get a read on the drum break.
If the purpose is to get more exciting scores, your suggestion works. If the goal is to get the most accurate scores, not so much.
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4 minutes ago, RiverCityAndTroopersFan said:
I think there needs to be a discussion on order of performance. The order that corps perform almost always matches up with their finishing position first corps on is 12th 2nd is 11th and so on and so forth. It should be randomized to maintain some level of parity
This has already been done at tournament of champions shows back when the G7 was still a thing. It didn’t do anything to change the results. The judges are smarter and more discerning than you think they are
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The Troopers badly need new colorguard techs
Boston needs to get rid of whoever suggested them switch to those horns they used this year
I think brass arranging could be improved at Cavies, though the arrangements this year could’ve just been the nature of the show
I think a lot of corps this year showed they actually have some really good foundations set in place. Pacific Crest, Spirit of Atlanta, Colts, Phantom Regiment, Mandarins, and Cadets, all corps who are either newcomers or have had recent staff overhauls all showed that things are moving in the right direction and for them, I hope things stay as stable as possible
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5 hours ago, skevinp said:
To me, this was the most entertaining top 6 in the 28 years I’ve been watching.
My favorite Blue Devils show since 2000
My favorite Bluecoats show since 2016
My favorite Crown show since 2016
My favorite Boston show ever
My favorite Cadets show since 2011
My favorite Mandarins show ever
For me, this was the strongest year of drum corps overall since 2014
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3 minutes ago, Lance said:
The thread is about the Bluecoats. Give it a rest for the love of god.
Sorry I let the pathological persistence suck me in again. Like a bird that keeps crashing into a window. Won’t happen again
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Just now, ContraFart said:
What I mean is to beat BD, become more like them.
But what I’m saying is that the design portion of the visual caption (visual analysis) is what Bloo beat BD in. And they beat BD in guard at various points this season as well.
To win proficiency against BD, a corps is going to need to hire instructors with the same level of visual expertise as BD. The body movement vocabulary and execution at BD is on a different plane of existence than other corps almost entirely due to their instructional staff, not design staff.
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Just now, ContraFart said:
In order to win, fire the drill writer and stage organically.
Uh what? They quite literally took 2nd off the backs of their extremely strong visual performance tonight. Both in marching and design
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Congrats to Crown on a well deserved Ott and medal! Wish it was the silver but still a great season
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40 minutes ago, karuna said:
holy crap Hoskins had CrownBrass UP!!
Thought you said he’d have BD in 1st?
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3 minutes ago, MikeRapp said:
Don’t they average all three nights for the final score?
Oh sorry thought you were referring to tonight specifically
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Blue Devils 2024 right before the storm
in DCI World Class Corps Discussions
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I'm about to take my yearly hibernation from DCP until next summer but I just wanted to say that this year overall for DCI was really incredible. Everything was so enjoyable from top to bottom, probably the strongest year of drum corps shows since 2014 for me.
BD 2023 won't go down as my favorite BD show of all time, but it's certainly up there because of just how well rounded of a show it was both musically and visually. If they truly are going for a trilogy, I am very excited to see what the last piece of the puzzle is next season and how they will tie in elements from the first two segments into the last one!