Sideways

Why not Ford Field in Detroit. Premier show has work quite well the last couple years with a really nice crowd for that early. Acoustics are not bad as far as hard topped stadiums go..seen hundreds of marching band shows perform there. Logistics are fairly easy in and out of downtown Detroit. Stadium district downtown is really going through a renaissance and river walk is is less than a mile down Woodward. For those that like "culture" the Windsor Ballet is just a quick drive south into Canuckistan.

Finals out doors in Madison once every four years.

Where is VK when you truly need them...

You know me well enough that I don't play well with others that are even mildly sensitive.

Is this thread still about staff changes???

X-men could pull this off.

Disco Demolition Night

I don't know but what corps is Will Pitts going to?

Dirty....dirty...dirty....especially when compared to Dada.

Go and watch A Beautiful Mind.

I'll bite.. 1987...30 in percussion...can you spell "conspiracy?" Cadets and SCV were both great. SCV was vintage but still modern enough...Cadets were cutting edge in visual. Still took 30 in percussion to beat SCV by 0.1...just saying (as I adjust my tinfoil beany) 1988...Madison proved that closing statements are the most important. 1989...SCV...I seem to be in minority feeling the 2nd edition of POTR had the greater emotional edge 1990....Cadets I am fine with cleaner than anyone else and a solid all around design. From the videos I've seen Star performed out of their minds on finals but seemed to be caught in the "too far back to be taken seriously" 1991...Star no contest 1992...Cavaliers...Star a little to polished and lacking GE but should have been 2nd. Cadets great finals night GE but tuning in the brass is no way championship material 1993...Cadets with their most epic show ever. Star with the most legendary show ever. Coin flip and I'd be happy either way. One more night though and I think both lose to Phantom Regiment...that finals run was something special. 1994...BD nothing was beating this juggernaut 1995...Cavies just clean enough to push high GE number with a design that was in a different league than Cadets and BD 1996...Finals night belonged to Phantom...any other night BD 1997...SCV had the emotional edge...Cadets had the demand...BD had performance and I am fine with BD winning 1998...Cadets 1999...Seeing SCV live finals night they owned Camp Randall Stadium 2000...Close but Cavies had the better performance finals night 2001...Cavaliers had the better designed show and more GE. I had BD first with their level of performance and brass though 2002...Cavies 2003...BD another show like 1994 and was not going to be denied 2004...Wanted BD back then but agree with Cavies winning now...such a cool show 2005...Cadets in a blow out 2006...Toss up between the top 3. Fan favorite BD show, Cavies were at the top of their game...Phantom probably had the best run on a finals night. OK with Cavies on this one. 2007...Cadets if they ever shut up. BD was not perfect but had the better run finals night and the performance captions reflect it. 2008...Sparticus was awesome but BD was the better corps. BD takes the founders trophy 2009...Loved this BD show. Crown was great as well but never cleaned it enough to push BD 2010...BD was not losing with this show 2011...Cadets win on GE alone 2012...Honestly I had BD winning by 2+ points. Crown was beautiful musically but the visual program was lacking a big punch...color choices I felt really hurt them. 2013...One of the few BD shows I've like since 2010. Had them with a slight edge over Crown but am OK with Crown winning 2014...BD...felt Cadets at the chops to challenge but every single design choice "He Who Shall Not Be Named" made doubling down on the patriotic vomit doomed them to third place 2015...Not a huge fan of either BD or Crown this year. BD definitely performed better at finals. Honestly Bluecoats had the strongest run at finals but "too weird" to win 2016...Once Bluecoats cleaned up they were in the GE driverseat and never looked back 2017...Worst BD show to win but SCV seemed a bit flat at finals when BD came to play. SCV had the better show but the better performance was BD at finals...still can't stand the visual package. 2018...SCV in a walkoff! I would put Babylon up against any 99+ point show and still bet on it. BD and Bluecoats were both really strong and kept SCV from breaking 99 2019...Cool visual package from BD but the music really left me flat, super clean run at finals. Bluecoats really had the total package and performance level was on par with BD...not sure why the GE numbers did not separate them more from BD. I give this one to Bluecoats for #2.

I would still take SCV 1997 over either Cadets or BD. That show had the emotional edge of a true champion.

Bringing Hop back and doing “The Apprentice” on the field??

Leaving this one right here..... https://www.classicfm.com/composers/dvorak/new-world-symphony-black-eyed-peas-remix/?fbclid=IwAR3KoHrNf4_ZDrt0-vVjPEZR6xk8QH-yfnmSFyWeUfW999Iv4d3-Pa9DPNk

I will be sad if #2 is true...that hornline has been a monster the last few years. That being said I am sure there is other talent waiting in the wings to step up.