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About old vanguard

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  • Your Drum Corps Experience
    1957-64 Skokie, Chicago, Des Plaines Vanguard - baritone & contra
  • Your Favorite Corps
    Belleville Black Knights, Blessed Sacrament
  • Your Favorite All Time Corps Performance (Any)
    Phantom Regiment 2005
  • Your Favorite Drum Corps Season
    too many to pick only one
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  1. I had the pleasure of meeting Father John M. D'Arcy in 1965 when the Cardinals were in Chicago for VFW Nationals. They competed at the Des Plaines Vanguard show while there. He was a very bright, guy with a great sense of humor. I was impressed, and felt that the Cardinals had a first class Moderator.
  2. 5-18-19 I saw a Dynastry III Euph. for sale on Ebay this morning.
  3. The Cavaliers had a long history of taunting and demeaning the Black Knights. The two corps really hated each other. (Kinda like the Chicago Bears and the Greenbay Packers) The Cavaliers, over the years, were known for referring to the BKs as "hillbillys" and $hit-kickers." This lack of courtesy and respect earned them some push-back from BKs. IMHO
  4. Critter 1701, I knew that I wasn't the only one who was aware of these old instruments I just bought one of the old Holton over the shoulder bass baritones. Brass finish, with case. It plays very well. It's pitched in G - D. No rotary valve. It needs some TLC, but I'm enjoying it. The USMC, Reilly Raiders, Milstadt Crusaders and Kankakee Lancers all used these - long ago. RE: The horn you offer - Please PM me with particulars (pictures?) and asking price. Thanks. PS The email address in my original (old) posting is no longer valid.
  5. I'm trying to locate sources for parts for repairing/restoring my collection of old, G baritone bugles. (Getzen DeLuxe and Titlest, Ludwig, and especially Holton 368.) If you have parts or used G baritones available, or know someone who has them, please PM me with contact information. Thanks,
  6. Dave Hill wrote their show. Mike Kumer did the percussion. Frank Pamper did the drill. Jim Unrath was the corps director.
  7. Can anyone provide some history on St. Rose? It seems that they were only around for a couple of years. I remember standing on the starting line watching them at Detroit VFW Nationals in 1960. We (Vanguards) were impressed. They had that great Al Saia sound and a very open style drill. We particularly liked their arrangement of "Song of India." I may be wrong on this, but I think that Jerry Shelmer was their drum instructor. Anyhow, where did they come from? Why did they break up? Where did their membership go?
  8. Mr. Saia also wrote for the St. Rose Scarlet Lancers and St. Mary's Cardinals. He had an interesting style. His use of harmony sopranos was unique. Sort of haunting. In 1961-1962 (I think) I heard that he was using some baritones with soprano mouthpieces. He voice them like mellophones. An innovative and very talented guy.
  9. The best corps manager I ever had the pleasure of working with was Jim Unrath, of the Des Plaines Vanguard. A great organizer, cheerleader, facilitator, musician and all around exceptionally intelligent guy. Great sense of humor too.
  10. John Thirion arranged for and instructed the Des Plaines Vanguard drum line in 1968 and 1969. He was an acoustic engineer by training. John also spent a lot of time working with the engineers at Ludwig Drum. He and Hy Dreitzer collaborated numerous times trying to work the tympanis and other tuned drums into his arrangements. Interesting times for the Des Plaines Vanguard members and staff.
  11. The first time I recall hearing Mellophones was at the 1964 VFW National prelims. A corps named Tri-Community _____ had them. At first I thought that they were French Horns on steroids. Prior to that, I was very familiar with the outstanding mellophone section of the Stan Kenton orchestra.
  12. The Des Plaines Vanguard marched a single tri-drum in 1968. In 1969, they eliminated tenor drums and instead used three tri-drummers. The Cavaliers marched a single three drum apparatus in 1968. We referred to them as "bubble drums" because they had rounded, clear plexiglass bottoms.
  13. The Norwood Park Imperials were doing a sunburst maneuver in 1959. The tune was "Daybreak." They may have done this in '58 too.