mort2885
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19 minutes ago, EricS said:
Rennick should be repramanded for his drummers "dut dut duting" so loud that they can be heard over the entire stadium. At this point in the game the timing should be so ingrained in their brains that they could do it in their sleeps. And the same for the battery bounving up and down like jacks in the vox. No excuse. And what in the **** is the drum major for?
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It’s funny how “when is it too much” has been a question since the beginning of DCI, but the “it” changes about every five years or so. And yet, DCI magically thrives.
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2 hours ago, BlueStainGlass said:
Very wrong - A for effort.
Nah, I’m good with my version. Thanks, though!
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3 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
We called them “ring chasers”.
Yeah, the names change, but the sentiment stays the same. Anyone who wants that should go get it, but I never cared about that in my marching career, and certainly don’t remember anything about scores from my dci days.
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Just now, wigwam said:
What are you trying to say?
I think he (or she) is talking about high school bandwagoners, jumping from corps to corps year to year as “the next unbeatable thing”. You know, that timeless thing that has happened since the beginning of dci.
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46 minutes ago, Rocketman said:
True, but last year there was really nothing they could do to make the design better. Do I think they will improve the design enough to remain a top 12 corps? Wish I could say yes to that with confidence.
I guess the real question is (if Spirit is the 12 spot) “can they make their show better than Spirit’s?” Probably not. Spirit’s show is designed and performed better, and still has significant things to change with the show.
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11 minutes ago, MusicManNJ said:
Crossmen 6th in drums behind all but Music City after finishing last in drums the night before. If something is not done to fix this section it could be the drag on the corps that could keep them out of finals.
My age out year (Spirit 2007), we were 15th in both brass and color guard and still made finals. It’s a GE game, baby.
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4 hours ago, N.E. Brigand said:
In terms of design, I prefer this year's Phantom to last.
Sure, it’s more relatable I guess, but still fundamentally terribly designed.
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8 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
While this is sad because they’ve been in the big show every year since ‘74, DCI shouldn’t be in the business of propping anyone up just because they’ve been there a long time.
Let’s be real. This year’s PR show is infinitely worse than last year’s, and last year’s show was unwatchable. I feel bad for the corps members. They don’t deserve this.
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I saw these guys in Birmingham tonight, and absolutely adored them. Obviously a well taught, mature corps. They should be proud of what they are doing.
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49 minutes ago, alvinpr89 said:
Didn't they already beat Madison?
Who hasn’t? I’ll see myself out.
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5 hours ago, BRASSO said:
Exactly... lol
So, you can both walk away happy, completely convinced of your rightness! ‘Merica.
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1 minute ago, Ediker said:
Agreed, and I'm not alone.
I’m sure you aren’t. Personally, I think it is used much more effectively now than when I aged out in 2007, and I’m all about effects being used as effectively as possible. As far as the concept itself, I’m pretty neutral. Good is good.
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13 minutes ago, Ediker said:
There are many examples of it working very well, particularly in the 80s (Cadets 85-90, SCV and others). It was used sparingly and with variety. I'm not against scatter drill.
Today, it's the go-to transition and I find it terribly uninteresting and unworthy of high visual marks. Intricate, readable forms, with innovative transitions and obvious precision in execution are my preference.
You’re certainly entitled to your opinion of your personal enjoyment of the use of scatter drill. With the high use of scatter drill in today’s DCI and the rewarding of it through scoring, the judges clearly disagree.
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1 minute ago, GUARDLING said:
YES, and if everything was about standing Os then they wouldn't mean anything would it. Usually, even with conventional drill is the build-up to that moment which makes people stand.
Absolutely! Some of the most impactful moments in DCI history (off the top of my head, SCV 1989 Music of the Night climax) were impactful because they were developed musically, visually, drill-wise, to make that arrival that much more satisfying. If done right, and there are many modern examples of it, scatter drill can play a part in creating such moments.
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1 minute ago, GUARDLING said:
or to set the mood for the climax.
Absolutely! Not be insulting to Edirker, because I know it’s not what he is driving at, but scoring is not an applause-o-meter. Does crowd reaction matter? Of course! It’s one part of the equation, but not the only factor.
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1 minute ago, Ediker said:
There are many examples of crowds applauding (even standing O) for great (and risky) drill moments. Never have I witnessed a scatter jazz run get such a response.
Well, sure. Scatter drill is used a lot as transitional material to a climax.
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3 minutes ago, GUARDLING said:
well we can disagree. I for sure know the difficulty in it and IF and I do mean IF it is done well reward should be granted
Honestly, it’s not a matter of opinion. You see in the scores it being rewarded when designed and executed well, and debited when not.
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25 minutes ago, DCIDADDIO said:
Alright, as a relative newbie to DCI...I had some questions about the scoring. I understand the captions etc, but my question is more of an East vs. Midwest vs. West interrogative.
So the Blue Devils, SCV And Mandarins etc have been hitting the highest marks competng out West. Those scores have been in the upper 60s to mid 70’s.
Out East, it’s been the Bloo coats, Carolina Crown, Boston Crusaders, Cadets setting the highest scores.. Those score are typically 3-4 pts higher than the West. Bloo popped 80 pts on 6/2/18
In the Midwest the Cavaliers hit a mid 70 score and Phantom Reg was just below that.
So are these scores all apples to apples or do we all have to wait for a Regional to get a good benchmark for the top teams and surging competitors?
You’re actually right on both counts. Ideally, this is judged on a “corps A achieved at this much of a spread higher or lower than corps b” system. So, with this mind, what happens on the west coast is independent of what happens on the east coast, or whatever region you choose to use. From a fan’s standpoint, the practical use doesn’t matter until they all meet at a large regional. From a corps’ standpoint, the most useful information comes from both the tape from the judges and the one on one feedback.
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2 minutes ago, queenanne_1536 said:
You never know on here.
You’re good! It’s hard to text tone.
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2 minutes ago, queenanne_1536 said:
GE is entirely subjective, and it isn't always about GE. BD won 2015 finals while placing 3rd in GE, so it can be done.
It was a joke.
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6 minutes ago, Den8uml said:
Looking at the caption breakdown, this appeared to be an outlier with some of the judging. A lot of variances from recent shows. There’s no way guard and percussion should have changed that much from last night.
This happened all the time when I was marching a million years ago. The tape is way more valuable than the number this time of year. It’s where you can determine the substance of the criticism.
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1 minute ago, kinetic inferno11 said:
Visual is Crown's weakspot right now. They need to clean clean clean if they want a medal.
Those are the problems you want at this stage of the season. It’s so much easier to clean your execution than your show.
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Just now, George Dixon said:
I expect a big argument over jet packs
It’s all about GE, man.
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SCV's show was an epic musical fail.
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He has a BM for Julliard, though. It makes him very knowledgeable in music (like people on this discussion board, including myself, don’t have a degree in music).