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Or from a different point of view...is the accusation that as finance chair (was he finance chair?) he was part of the problem at SCV and therefore shouldn't be trusted to serve anywhere? I'm just not sure what the topic at hand is. I also don't know what this particular board member's role was in the issues that plagued SCV and caused their hiatus. Clarification on all points is welcome.

Would this be news if this former SCV board member went anywhere else besides BD? Wait...is this actual news? Often times Board members feel they have run their course with the orgs they represent and look for other charitable opportunities. Maybe there was one at BD and he had a conversation with a colleague or vice versa. Maybe BD thought he would be a great contribution for their board. Just because he stepped down from SCV under a particular set of circumstances doesn't mean he can't or shouldn't contribute elsewhere.

Yeah I'm still annoyed and when I'm annoyed I go off half cocked. So I may have been incorrect in part of my assessment of the cadets accusation that Mr. Lesher is leveraging but I think my biggest issue here is the bigger question of "what's the point?" DCP is generally a vacuum. Nothing here makes big waves. All this is is a soapbox for us to complain or love on drum corps. Want to go viral and get your word out? It's not going to be here...go to reddit. This platform is a place where RL can come and promote his latest controversial Fire or gotcha moment and have it stoke his ego with no real impact. And if that's what he wants to do so be it I guess. At the end of the day this is an echo chamber that goes nowhere and serves nothing but his ego with the interactions he gets....my responses included. The question I have is "Did you reach out to Cadets?" Did you frame a question like "Hey I was working on something (burning SCV to the ground) and I discovered that you may not fully be registered under the BCO in PA. You (insert board member/CEO) may want to look into how to correct this so that your org doesn't run afoul of the great state of PA. Good luck to you this year!" Just something to consider... I'm gonna go make dinner for my family now.

Interesting that PA requires non profits to essentially double register. I've worked with NP's in multiple states and have not come across that in any of them. But I've never worked in PA. However, what I find interesting is that nowhere can I find what the penalty is for not having this BCO-10 form or BCO-23 form filed. The closest I can find to a penalty is a warning that if you are soliciting without a BCO registry...make sure you register. And maybe a late fee. So at this point, unless you all sleuth out some penalty I can't find no matter how I phrase the search, my personal conclusion is that they are a legal tax exempt nonprofit entity that needs to update their BCO registration. But I can't seem to find anything that suggests something more nefarious.

Again, your next question to the state of PA should be whether they differentiate what is a charity and what is a nonprofit corporation and if ALL nonprofits are charities and vice versa by their definition.

They are listed in the State of PA as a Domestic Nonprofit Corporation. Again, use the above link and search for Cadets arts and entertainment. Again I don't know why my image URL's refuse to work here or I would post it myself and save you from doing that search. If you search for them under the charity search engine that you used, it does not come up and DOES surface the YEA listing that is expired as you found. I found that to be the case in my own search which prompted me to look under the business and charities search engine ( the link I provided above). If you also go to the IRS and search with that EIN you will find that they have an active Tax exempt status with the FED gov.

I'm super annoyed right now. Pennsylvania apparently does not consider all nonprofit organizations (or corporations as they like to call them CHARITIES. Several states differentiate NONPROFITS and charities according to some bureaucractic definition. If you did HALF of your due diligence you would have found that CADETS ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT INC (NOT YEA) has a legal and active EIN and Tax exempt status with the federal government via the IRS and furthermore you would have found that CADETS ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT is listed as an ACTIVE Non profit corporation with the state of Pennsylvania as of 03/2020 with the latest update to that registry being done YESTERDAY. Now apparently I'm an idiot that can't figure out this whole URL insert thing but here's the link. JUST SEARCH CADETS and you'll find your info. https://file.dos.pa.gov/search/business

I mean, why would the organization say anything on social media about this? That would be disastrous. Legal is most likely telling them to stay mum

Also should state that my knowledge came from writing SVOG applications, supplementals, and appeals for 2 different organizations. I have nightmares. LOL

For anyone curious...this is the last dataset for SVOG recipients. https://data.sba.gov/dataset/svog/resource/e99e8853-d322-4533-9231-a52b149d7444 I can speak in a lot of depth about several covid relief based programs that aided organizations in the activity. PPP loans went through 2 rounds to assist with employee salary (W-2 only) and a percentage of overhead. They were fully forgivable if you completed the process on time and stayed within the program parameters. SVOG went through a primary award and a supplemental round. Then there were a couple of appeal windows in there for those that felt the calculations and awards were incorrect. My org benefitted greatly from our appeal. Vanguard DID receive an award. There is a required single audit of the entire org required to close out the award process and be forgiven of any potential penalty. I absolutely cannot speak of any hiccups they may be experiencing during all of this and if they are at any risk with this award. My orgs have both closed out and audited the award so we are clear. The algorithm of the award process reduces the grant award if an org was granted a PPP award. In order to stay clear of any PPP entanglements I advised my organization to stay away from W2 employee salaries when allocating SVOG money in the budget. I did not see the meeting nor did I read the reddit thread to truly understand what SCV was stating in regards to SVOG nor do I want to speak in any way that would signal smoke where there is no fire so I won't begin to surmise what they are speaking to or dealing with when it comes to the SVOG award they did receive.

Late to the game here but I agree with you. Hire the people that can do their job description. The rest will come. A CEO makes connections, brokers deals, partnerships, and agreements, diversifies sponsorships and revenue and oversees the performance reviews hirings and firings of their team while expanding the reach of their organization programming despite what the programming is. A CFO manages money despite what the mission and programming is. A developer manages donor relations and fundraising campaigns. All of these are the same everywhere. A smart leader then hires experts in their respective programming departments to run those departments. Honestly I feel like having a CEO that wants to run the overall organization without getting neck deep in the drum corps program is a smart utilization of time, money and energy.

I do yes! 🤣🤣🤣

I don't disagree in part. There is definite financial risk in diversifying and some of that is how quickly you grow and expand that programming. As a grant writer I urge nonprofits NOT to seek out a grant you don't have an existing program for unless you are pursuing R&D and seed awards for well developed programming plans. I can't tell you how many times I have had someone come to me with a grant opportunity we would have to create a program for. No thank you. That's how you over extend your future revenue and personnel and risk running afoul of your grant award requirements. I could go way down a rabbit hole about grant writing in this activity but it would be a huge non-sequitur. What came first the full time director/CEO or more expensive/expansive programming? That's a chicken/egg question I guess. But yeah, when you have orgs pulling in Millions (and also spending Millions) the responsibilities of the CEO to create and maintain revenue earning relationships definitely becomes a full time responsibility.

That's what I thought. Also, DCI required this of PIO too Right? And they chose not to comply which is why they lost member status?

Oversight for Bingo should be a PAID position managed by the CFO ( paid) and their staff (also paid) and yes should be local to the operation. That is far too laborious for a VOLUNTEER board position even if that position is Treasurer. A board treasurer provides oversight to the overall finance and auditing process. The missteps that I call out concerning their board was the "greenlight at all costs" checkwriting that the BOD approved from 2019-2022 that collapsed the organization as well as failure to audit their org and stay on par with the State of California. THOSE missteps all lie at the feet of the BOD. Who you hire should align with your mission statement but doesn't necessarily mean "drum corps". Many mission/vision statements now say "performing arts/music education" because the broader description allows for diversification of programming and potential revenue streams. A healthy org hires a person that can help deliver that mission statement and the hope is that person shares some sort of aligned passion and experience for the mission. I never said the bigger problem was Richard's tone and delivery. I never said that was bigger than the topic of SCV at any point. I simply said his tone and centering was getting in the way of a clear message and willing listeners in regards to the HUGE issue that is SCV.