JimF-LowBari
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23 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
Only old people will get this.
Old people who have all 90+ episodes on dvd. (I know.. I ain’t right 🤪)
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4 minutes ago, MitchwithdaSticks said:
Drum Corps intrigue and machinations.... subject for a screenplay.
To quote an ex-boss (RIP) “you can’t write this ####, no one will believe it”. Irony is his daughter had to drop out of Cadets due to health issue. Later caught corps members here saying “well then she wasn’t Cadets material”.
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1 hour ago, kdaddy said:
I can only assume that is rooted in whatever GH heard in that Hershey Ramada Inn ballroom.
Oh 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮. Take it that’s the RI off I-81 by Linglestown/Paxtonia exit. Drive by there when going to my parents old house… next time will be tomorrow. 🥵
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34 minutes ago, HockeyDad said:
I see comparisons to a tragic Shakespearean figure or a Greek tragedy to be glamorizing. Maybe that’s just me. I see a snake oil salesman who finally got caught.
Thinking more like Gotterdammerung where the head burned down everything around him. And this final mess could have occurred during the GH trial and publicity
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7 minutes ago, keystone3ply said:
"LifeSpring"; is that kind of like "Amway"? (googles "LifeSpring") 😡😄
Googled too 😟. Sounds like one of those “every day I’m getting better and better” groups. If you’re really impressed with yourself I can see why you’d be involved.
can hear my dad: “like to buy them for what they’re worth.. and sell them for what they think they’re worth”
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1 hour ago, Jeff Ream said:
on one of the zillion facebook pages where this has been discussed today, one of the people that claimed to write the press release seemed quite pleased with the wording. i called them out on the victim shaming tone, and was met with silence
No response? What a freaking surprise. (Yeah blew up my sarcasm meter on that one).
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2 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
Noooo… Jim has homeland security clearance for his job. Nothing like the one he had for Cadets. That’s was basic information.
Wife had a cousin who worked at FBI. Cousin and I were joking around and he said “I’m gonna check your file when I get back to work”. Mother in law was “you don’t have an FBI file do you Jim?”. I said “sure it’s pretty thick by now… they got my fingerprints too”. 😈
Very few people knew I had a security clearance
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1 minute ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
TBD on the first; No on the second (unless the hit on the first is so big that it impacts season).
Definitely on the first, the meter is still running on the expenses.
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1 hour ago, camel lips said:
Sex offenders yes. I understand. But how deep are they diving into these background checks? Are they excluding people from the activity with say non violent felonies such as tax evasion? Low level drug offenses ?
Back in the 90s our church started background checks for people around youth. Then it was state police check for crimes against youth and check if you were on the national abuse registry.
Nothing like my security checks for DoD.
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1 minute ago, FormerXyloWhiz said:
Unlike the Cadets, DCI likely (hopefully) has insurance to cover that. They existed at the time and would have had a policy. Even if they have since changed policies, whatever policy they had in place at the time of the incident should theoretically have coverage.
What insurance from the time of the incident would cover harassment or abuse claims? Not an insurance expert but if they have policy from a different company…..🤷🏻
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2 hours ago, Terri Schehr said:
Drum corps gets you out on fantasy traveling circus band trip and the abnormal becomes normal. Or at least it did when my bf and I marched. It’s hard to change an ingrained culture. We’d say “back to the real world” when we’d return from finals.
Guess I was lucky my first year was with a corps getting back on the field. Rode with board members, sat in the back and kept my mouth shut. Got to hear how much red ink there was and how lot of people were holding their breath the corps would make it for the following year. 😦
No wonder I’m surprised the activity is still around
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19 minutes ago, jimwolf359 said:
Is there any indication that DCI will make a statement about this or will they just ignore what happened to one of their Founding Member Corps?
I'm guessing the latter.
FHNSAB
Wonder how hard the legal expenses will hit DCIs budget. And if anything will be said publicly.
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46 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
I talked to my bf down here who is one of the original survivors. It was clear to me that there was institutionalized dysfunction in the organization for decades. Even before you know who. She was in the Plebes so her knowledge goes way back. She is from Garfield.
Wish I could remember who on either RAMD or DCP chewed me out for saying corps are one big “oh crap” away from going away. Just surprised SCV is this far along in trying to get back.
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6 minutes ago, craiga said:
Let's hope for all our sakes that DCI has the resources to fight this tooth and nail.
Going to cost no matter what…. win, lose or not going to court. Lawyers need to be paid for any work they do
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4 hours ago, olddrummer34 said:
Ok, not sure why you are being defensive. I would suggest running it by DCI. Otherwise you are asking a forum of people who don't know instead of the organization you are asking about.
You never know what info people have until you ask, so why not ask. Also posting is a way to let DCPers know of answers are given.
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Irony seeing the posts about 1960s AL and VFW shows and discussion about changes in scoring priorities. Today discussion is going from musical to visual. In the 1960s it was trying to go from marching to more musical.
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4 hours ago, Terri Schehr said:
It is like pulling teeth to get them to talk about their experiences. I didn’t even know my father had served in Korea until after he had passed away. I knew he’d been in (West) Germany but he never talked about Korea. I can only surmise that he saw a lot.
God bless your Grandfather.
Ditto here. Dad served (Army Corps of Engineers) in Korea during the war but only talked about when he was in Canada working on part of the Defense Early Warning (DEW line) system. Thank goodness for MASH as pieces started coming out while watching (Kimpo airfield was never that big when I was there).
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35 minutes ago, Terri Schehr said:
Jim had to walk a site in Chester, PA years ago and he was told to not stop for anything. lol 😂. They used to have a show there, too.
Years back had in laws that part of PA. They took us to Philly and they pointed out the Chester exit. “What ever you do.. DON’T GET OFF THERE!”. Then we spend an afternoon on South Street in Philly. Kept overhearing about a bar bouncer who got the crap kicked out of him. “Yeah man they were pros, must have been a mob job”. 😦
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1 hour ago, scheherazadesghost said:
lul, sometimes I like books, reports, studies and articles more than people, admittedly. 🤓
So, there's DCI's strategic plan. And it states the mothership's goals pretty clearly. However, it's from 2017-2018 (and therefore, pre-pandemic) so it's out of date. But hey, coolio, there are timelines attached to their goals. that's crucial. Also, a yearly report made public would be helpful in describing how they think they did in meeting their goals. Perhaps that's out there somewhere but I couldn't easily find it. Is that what they do at Jannuals? That stuff should be more public if so.
An example of a crucial goal would be the Mission Statement: "To bring the life-changing benefits and enjoyment of marching music performing arts to more people worldwide. We do this by creating a stage for participating organizations to engage in education, competition, entertainment and the promotion of individual growth."
Education is listed as the first dang method for achieving their mission. That's probably intentional. Are their member participants aware of that? I'm not so sure anymore, given the adjustments to many of their own missions to eliminate education altogether. Concerning.
Anyway, the strategic plan, mission, vision, and values statements are all present and accounted for. But there are key concerns there for me. Specifically, how are they holding themselves accountable for these statements and goals? It's like trying to follow a map but never looking up to see if you found water... or simply telling your traveling party you found water when you haven't... or having found it but not sharing it. It's shallow. If there are annual reports I'm missing, then by all means, I'll give them a read and respond.
If this is the case with the mothership, that they aren't holding themselves accountable for goals, then all the little member boats will follow suit.
Now we could dive into their "In Step" DEI programming, but that seems a bit embryonic as well, so I'm reluctant to go full hog on dissecting it. I want it to succeed, and have criticisms, but that's for a later time. It looks to me like my concerns are rooted further down in the clarity of their mission/vision/values.
Then we have the issue of does DCIs goals match the corps goals. And how close do the individual corps goals match each other.
Some corps goals, if realistic just might be “freaking survive until next year”. (Sounds familiar to me)-
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6 hours ago, Terri Schehr said:
I just figured out valve one/rotor two. There was no three for me until 2000.
I played French horn in band. He wasn’t a trombone player.Hanovers horn instructor also played during the piston/rotor days. When I got my 3 valve I couldn’t resist. 😈 “hey Brian, ok valve 1 is right thumb (horizontal valve), valve 2 is left thumb (rotor)… what thumb is third valve”
Got this “I can’t believe you said that” look. 😦
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3 hours ago, Terri Schehr said:
I marched with people who couldn’t read a note of music as currently as 2003. When we’d get a change, the mellophones would gather around me and I’d play it for them three or four times. They were quick learners, though. I’m a slave to the page of music but they weren’t. I did teach one of my fellow members how to read though because I got tired of seeing fingerings all over the page. He could read after the season and proudly showed me his practically pristine music in 2004.
Interesting thanks. I was a trombone player who could read music but…. What’s a fingering? 🤔 My first year was a rush job as we reformed and started late. So I still had fingerings marked my second year. Of course the markings were 0, 1, 2 and X (both). 😆
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To go with jwillis35 when I read “corps don’t take in kids who can’t read music anymore”, my response is “corps take the most talented members. If they can fill the corps with people who can read music then no need to go further “.
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11 minutes ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
What part of DFTK is so hard to understand?
Looking at it from DCIs POV. If rules back then didn’t tell the corps to notify DCI, and DCI was not notified…. Dumps it all on the corps laps….
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2 hours ago, rjohn76 said:
One of the things to keep in mind is that everything in this case is based on the standard of care or best practices as they were at the time of incident. While there are more protective measures in place today within DCI, the individual corps, and pretty much every other youth organization... that wasn't necessarily the case 40 years ago. That's the basis they have to argue upon, and not necessarily what's going to provide the best optics in the current "me too" era.
Yeah I’m looking at it as DCI is defending that they did what was legal at the time. Having said that they need to get the word out to all participants and supporters that things are a lot different in 2024.
And wondering how much of this is costing DCI in legal fees and how that will affect operations
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