JimF-LowBari

Thanks... And Bobs first year was my last.... 1979.....

Another thing that's good about corps is that "kids" have a choice in what type of corps they want to try out for. Be it Junior, All Age, or (even yes) Alumni.......

And he's quick on the draw too!! :P Think someone asked what all was allowed under the proposal. You mentioned that corps could have amped vocals because there was nothing in the proposal banning the idea. And then the flames started. :P As far as Colbert Report, I'm more into "Mind of Mancia". Or as my wife calls it "Not that show again?"

The reasoning behind the original amp proposal was so the mallet players could use proper technique to be heard. IOW there was a sound balance issue between the pit and the rest of the corps. Answer was to amp the pit to achieve balance for that area of the corps. Now we have amped vocals. Why? <pause 2 seconds ^0^ > Because unamped vocals cannot be heard over the corps or in the stands. IOW - yes another balance problem. In my job I have to think ahead to the next few steps. Did the same thing here and realize the only thing holding back balancing the entire corps is a lack of technology. My thoughts are that when technology catches up someone will want to rig up an entire corps so they can be balanced the same way you see at rock concerts. Any thoughts from the peanut gallery? :P And this is not a satirical post, I am serious. Wow - remember when Gadget said the amp proposal allowed amplified vocals and he got flamed for his truthfulness.

Have also seen Buccs at Towson and Dundalk but don't remember them at Havre de Grace.

Still.... can't.... remember..... this.... Remember freezing our butts off at the Rochester show. At old Aquinas stadium facing backfield doing the warm up and people had blankets in their laps and wearing snowmobile gloves. The applause was like "thuump, thuump....". Guess it proves I'm the oldest of theis group.

And Barbs got Friday night I&E also. Yeah, think I'd bet money you'd be missed at Prelims Fran. :P And it would be hard to sneak out with that shirt. ^0^

Lancers usual Fourth of July tour Sunday July 2nd - Havre de Grace, MD Tuesday July 4th - Dundalk and Towson. Last year Heat Wave made the Maryland swing now it's CGs turn. Archer Epler and Yankee Rebels are usually in those parades also. Hope our corps get a chance to stop and talk. :) *sigh* Havre de Grace will be tough. Last year our long time DM Posey Pfaff went down with a fatal heart attack during the parade. Corps has had black ribbons on our equipment ever since. Don't know what will be worse, marching past the area where Posey went down or taking the ribbons off afterwards.

Email or meet up at Central Dauphin show would be cool, thanks. Will check closer to show time as this spring/summer has been a disaster planning stuff. My moms been in the hospital twice in three months with various problems and hope she gets out (and stays the #### out) this week. Only good thing is she has a new doc and he has been keeping her in while he checks (and many cases fixes) what the previous smuck left go for years. Ben can't remember the beginning of 1979 at all. One big friggin' blur that probably is because I was freaking out realizing I would graduate in December and had no ####### idea where I should live.

And speaking for myself, I get a chance early on each season to see what is being done regarding amps and vocals. If I like what is on the field I will start attending Div I shows (if possible). So far I don't like which is my right. And those who do appreciate or like it and go to the shows... s'cool.

Oh, oh... Mike and I might actually agree on something. IOW, there are too many unknowns and what ifs to really draw firm conclusions on what the fans really think. And $1 to Bill Clinton, it also depends on what you mean by fans and "use of amps". What year were the paper and on-line petitions drawn up? I remember a bunch of people would not sign until they saw amps being used as they wanted to keep an open mind.

There is some good discussion here, but some of the comments you have directed toward the anti amp people are disrespectful of their opinions. And you got some back so... eh.... nothing new under the sun on this topic.....

Parking for big football games was always a pain in the ###. And with the schools getting bigger it hasn't gotten any easier. Wonder if Five Star will contact the Methodist(?) church (NE corner of Houcks/Locust Lane) about using their parking lot. Seem to remember church using that as a fund raiser some nights. Other than that, believe it's side street parking only.

So THAT'S what Wally was doing back in the day..... :P You got good genetics buddy. B)

For some reason I always get LancerLady and byline confused. No idea why. Must be because Revere and Toronto(?) are close :P One thing I would like to know (but it would be next to impossible to find out) is this: What percent of pro/anti/don't care about amp people are long term fans of Drum Corps. What percentage of pro/anti/don't care about amp people are following corps because they know someone in the corps. And after the family member or whoever is gone, they are gone also. (Talk about a moving target.) Wondering because I have the feeling the people following family members don't care what DCI does on the field.

Wait 'til you start pushing 50 ^0^ I had to drink white or chocolate milk last year to help me relax in the hotel room. . . . . White milk is Pina Colada and Chocolate was mudslide

OK guys (and Ruth :P ) Fawbs the dumb ### Bari stated a new thread looking for something and I should have come here first. Looking for close up color shots of Westshore in the "Hand Me Down" :P Blue Devils unis. For us that would be 1976-1978. Trying to get good pics of every uni I ever wore and don't have any real good ones of this uni. Ain't looking for one of me, just one that isn't from 50 yards away or in Black/White. #### even have one of me from 1979 which is the new black uni and ye olde (spray painted) black shako. :sshh: PS - Buccs jackets be ###ed... Ahem, check my new avatar. ^0^

Thread growing faster than I can keep up with :P IMO #1: Getting a petition up sure beat the alternative of sitting around grumbling and doing nothing. IMO #2: If you don't speak up then the other side (in this case DCI) assumes you are happy or don't care. And to add to gelufs point about people not knowing about the amps petition I emailed a few who only go to DCI Finals week and don't get DCW. First they heard about amps was when I told them. All support DCI but almost all signed for variuos reasons.

Alright I'll erase my previous comments as you do have a valid question. If I remember right the petition was presented to DCI at a meeting by two people. Want to think byline or another female DCP member and ???? (totally forget who). The people presenting the petetion were treated in a curtious manner and that was about all the happened. If nothing else DCI was made aware that a bunch of people were not happy with the amps ruling. Perhaps more people than DCI was aware of.

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Last year was my first Alumni Spectacular and missing the tail end of Prelims to get needed sleep was the lesser of two evils. Being well rested helped my wife and I enjoy the Alumnis more than we even suspected we would. As for the T-Bird comment, the Turkeybirds (old joke) were one of Westshoremens (aka Wes' Whore Men :P ) closest rivals when I marched. As some of them know, I have a lot of fond memories competing against and talking to them during that time. And judging by things I see in my e-mail from time to time, the Erie crew should easily top the great show they put on in Harrisburg this Sping. Really a 50th to celebrate.

Thanks for the responses and I'll respond to both here. Ironic part is the close-up B/W (black and white) pics I have were taken by Moe Knox at DCA Prelims and Finals in 1977 or 1978. Moes stamp with picture number is on the back so I know which pics are his. When I have a few spare hours I'll go plowing thru the old corps pics thread. One of the best history thread started here but the size is overwhelming. Problem is DCPs search engine tells you wich thread has what you are looking for but not which post # within the thread.

Looks like we'll be leaving Prelims early again so we are awake enough to hit the start of the Alumni show. Man will I be PO'ed if I miss any of the T-Birds.

OK, lower part of that one section Mr Precise :P Writing note to self that the home side of the stadium changed since I went to school there. Trying to remember if the school district added to the parking lot since the last time I was there in the late 90s. Be prepared to park on side streets if (hopefully) there is a big crowd.

Working on a picture project of uniforms I have worn over the decades and hit a snag. Snag is I don't have good shots of the second uni I wore from 76-78. Bad news is the shots I have are either from far away or in B/W. Good news is those were bought used from the Blue Devils in 1976 when BD went to the "Frilly Waiter Look" :P . If anyone has a good close shot of the ?-1975 uni please post here or email me. Uniforms had blue pull over blouses with silver sash (front only) and silver cumberbund. Pants were black and we took off the stripe(s?) on the side to add our one white stripe. Thanks in advance as this is the only one I'm missing out of the five I've worn.