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9 hours ago, Tim K said:
I can recall reading in the DCI yearbook stories about a disastrous winter where the roof caved in on the corps hall and major snowstorms kept the corps from practicing which during the “tic” days would have been a death blow. I also seem to remember hearing they lost members as the season progressed. My thought is this had more to do with the demise of the corps as fans knew it than anything else. Though Kilties rebounded after missing finals in 76, missing finals in 79 was an obstacle that they could not overcome.
The 1980 off-season was the deciding factor. The corps was (A) not in a very strong financial position, (B) the national economy was really hitting some areas of the country hard (if not the whole country) and more importantly......(C) local base involvement (as far as membership).....was way, way down; mostly due to the economic factors within the area. Members could no longer take off work, etc. in order to remain involved during the competitive season (as many were able to do in prior seasons). The corps had 50 (or so) active members throughout the off-season, the other (around) 80 were just on "paper" and not showing for rehearsals. The decision was made to not field, although the Kiltie Kadets continued for a few more seasons; and the Kiltie booster/parent's club kept active continuing to support the Kiltie Kadets and retire some of the organization's old debt.
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15 hours ago, Florida Sun said:
i only counted 35 brass for cadets they where 4 across.y friends inn Manhatten at the parade only counted 35 brass?
Wearing black made them look smaller. :-)
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11 hours ago, Terri Schehr said:
Two guys in Kilties all-age quit because they let me in the brassline. I wouldn’t have blamed them if they’d quit because of the female they let in after me that season.
I spoke to the corps before they voted and said that they should do what they want. It wasn’t the end of the world if they didn’t let me in. It would have been dumb to not let me in however because I was a much better brass player than most of them. Just sayin.
There were already females in the corps (Kilties) inasmuch the color guard section went coed in the 1999 season. It was brought to a membership vote to open the brass and percussion sections to females starting in the 2000 season. There were actually two items presented to the membership, sadly it was combined into one issue for one overall vote. The question was: Open membership to females in all sections and maintain the the bottom age limit at 21. All but two members voted "yes", thus opening the corps to full coed and (sadly IMO) keeping the lower minimum age at 21. I voted "no" due to the age limit; getting involved on the recruitment end (at that time) it was clear the corps needed to lower it's minimum age limit. I suggested to the Board of Directors down to 18 years old as a starting point (which came about a few years later), but it fell on deaf ears. I recall one member taking the season off (there may had been another), but the reason for him taking the year off was family related and he returned in 2001 to perform with the corps through the 2010 season.
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1 hour ago, bill said:
1) A corps needs a score from a DCA sanctioned show to be seeded in performance order at the championship prelims. A score from a DCI show, carries no weight. It's clearly explained in the DCA Rulebook.
2) CT has tried to host a DCA sanctioned show in the past, but the only DCA corps that would commit to traveling to Cincinnati in support of a show were the Kilts. At that time 3 corps were required to have a DCA sanctioned show.
3) DCA is specifically chartered as an organization for "North American" corps.
North American corps eliminated from finals competitive performance by inclusion of none North American corps (into the finals competitive line-up): Sky--3 times (including 2017), Carolina Gold--2 times, Bush--1 time, Kilties--1 time.
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1) A corps needs a score from a DCA sanctioned show to be seeded in performance order at the championship prelims. A score from a DCI show, carries no weight. It's clearly explained in the DCA Rulebook.
2) CT has tried to host a DCA sanctioned show in the past, but the only DCA corps that would commit to traveling to Cincinnati in support of a show were the Kilts. At that time 3 corps were required to have a DCA sanctioned show.
3) DCA is specifically chartered as an organization for "North American" corps.
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Share points are based on the net income of the championship itself, and thus varies (each year) on how much each point is worth. During the regular season a DCA corps receives one share point for every sanctioned DCA show they attend....and a share point for hosting a show (if they do); thus a "home show" for a corps would be worth 2 share points. A corps must attend the championships to receive any share points whatsoever; season earned, championship earned and/or hosting show corps earned. No championship attendance, no share points.
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13 minutes ago, larry p said:
dear x,
couldn't you have said that a little nicer. Lothar was a friend (to all).
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8 hours ago, Fran Haring said:
If the DCA Finals format is the same this year as in recent years, the 11th place open class corps will do an exhibition Sunday night. So even if they get bumped by Kidsgrove or whoever, they still get to perform. I don't see the problem here.
For one reason (of several)----money. Historically finalist (Open and Class A) receive extra "share points". One share point is equal to a set amount of money. Another point is "status", within the drum corps community and to the everyday fan.
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1 hour ago, Fran Haring said:
The voting membership remains the top 10 scoring North American corps from prelims. No "displacement" there.
Although----presently a North American corps is replaced among the "competitive" finals line-up when a non-North American corps is allowed in and, in turn, that displaced corps does not receive the financial perks (of being allowed to compete), much less compete itself. In short, a North American corps can become a voting member with being a top 10 scored corps, and be sitting in the stands..........and with a lighter wallet as well.
Non-North American corps should be allowed to compete in prelims, to show their wares, then proclaimed complimentary international visiting champion----and allowed to put on a judged exhibition at finals; thus elevating the next qualifying North American corps up one slot from prelims....into finals.
One will never see an American corps even allowed to compete in any European or Asian drum corps circuit, from my understanding..........why, because, for one reason, they do not geographically qualify.
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17 hours ago, Spandy said:
According to the rulebook, the number of Class A finalists is supposed to be decided prior to the start of the season. I suppose these are extenuating circumstances though.
June 1st is the class declaration date, and then determination was made, being 4 this year. Although, DCA can (and does) break their own rules----as example, no fines for some corps, allowing North American corps to be displaced from finals competition by none-North American corps....Hucs, Carolina Gold, Kilts, etc. have felt the sting of that over the years; by charter, DCA is for North American corps.
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It's the Russians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sometimes it simply stops being fun and/or enjoyable for oneself vrs the amount of time being put in on the competitive aspect, in short---balance...........after-all, it is supposed to be a hobby.
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1 hour ago, garfield said:
No, not completely sure. It was from his DCI interview back, I think, in 1989 or '90.
If you're thinking of the same interview, you most definitely could be right.
Chicago Royal Airs 65 - YouTube
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13 hours ago, Brad T. said:
Example: the Kilties own a handful of 5/4 size Dynasty Supermag contras. These horns were bought by the Madison Scouts in 1999. These horns are 18 years old and still being used. You don't see any corps marching an 18 year old Yamaha or Jupiter Bb. A 2-3 year old Yamaha is in worse shape with far worse plating wear and so forth.
Correct, inasmuch as The Kilties have 7 (of 11 owned contras) that are 5/4 Dynasty Super Mags (and in fantastic shape), although they were not purchased from the Madison Scouts in "99" 6 were purchased from the Troopers after they converted to multi-key and one was purchased from an independent party, all 7 purchased in the 2006 timeframe.
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reed instruments were not approved,...........
$hlt........there goes the show concept. "Stellar Polka Hits of Lawrence Welk, You Polka--You Broughtha".
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The BIG question is-----A.A.A.?
Are Accordions Allowed? The forgotten ######## child of musical instrumentation.
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The Kilties very first Drum Major has passed................
http://www.lifestorynet.com/obituaries/harald-p-kahlert.113761
"We Winna Be Dauntit"
http://www.drumcorpscollectibles.com/Pictures/Kilties,Racine,WI1936.jpg
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Thanks! Do you know if they're purchasing new lines of them, or are only still on G because they haven't replaced their horns (and when they do will go to Bb/F)?
Kilts purchased a new line of Kanstul G's a few years back, although, except for one Kanstul contra, the contras are Super Mags.
http://kanstul.com/category.php?category_search=Bugle&metaPage=Bugle
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I very recently started paying attention to DCA and I've become more interested in doing it. I'm from east Texas and I know there isn't any currently established Corps from Texas. Does anybody know of any corps nearby that compete in DCA? Or any mini-corps from Texas?
Thanks for the help!
Quit your job, or school or whatever and join The Kilties....it's too #### hot down there anyway.
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Didn't Kilties hornline start their show in the early 70's (72 or 73) sounding like bagpipes?
Sounded pretty close from what i remember.
The Kilties still use the bagpipe effect in "Scotland the Brave", a signature tune still being performed by the corps in parades and concerts; along with performing another of Kenny's arrangements of a Kiltie signature tune--- "Auld Lang Syne". You could hear Auld Lang Syne interwoven into the closing tune of the Kilties 2016 show.
And yes.......per Kenny, the bagpipe effect (to paraphrase)---good players play bad, bad players play loud = bagpipe effect.
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Bagpipes are NOT illegal during pre-show nor are they illegal via an electronic patch. Royalties would have to be paid to Racine Kilts.
Of course, bagpipes never begin on-note but first has to inflate the bag part of the instrument which glowers a few overtones and such.
In college, I had the "pleasure" of rooming next to someone who was learning how to play the pipes and had juist graduated from chanter to full instrument. Truthfully, even this son of Roscommon and Cork and who even loves Scotland in the winter, was tested for patience.
The Kilts used a recording of bagpipes playing Scotland the Brave for the 2016 pre-show; cool stuff!!
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Help MBI Take The Next Step
in DCA - All-Age Corps Discussions
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One would think the most important aspect would be detailing the power flow (chain of command) of these positions and how they fall within the structure. As example,---who hires staff, who hires the person hiring staff, who has control over the person hiring staff, etc. etc. There should always be a "pecking order", a "buck stops here" scenario. In any organization and/or organizational structure (business, non-profit, government, etc.) position titles mean little without knowing where any (said) position stands in the flow of control and authority.
A sincere best of luck...........