KeithHall
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In an effort to not jab, here's my thought.....
Drum corps as a whole is in a "not so good" place! With some not so nice news stories the past few years and the canceling of 2020 (and probably 2021) I don't think that many corps can sustain. Kids today find other avenues and if drum corps isn't available to them, they will find other things. Maybe finding a job (if possible).
The whole concept of drum corps is to rehearse and learn a show in the winter months to take on tour to compete against other corps and end up at DCI Championships (run on sentence but you get it right?). Now corps can't get together face to face so that eliminates the socialness of drum corps. Sound of being virtual is not adequate so why bother?
My point? Can all corps sustain for another year (or more)? If corps utilize area schools, will the districts allow outside groups to use facilities for winter and summer? My guess is not a lot of them. Vaccine or no vaccine our world is not what it was. If you believe that this will blow over in 6 months or a year, you aren't seeing the big picture. I won't share that picture because it would seem like political jabbing. The truth is it's beyond politics!
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Can corps continue to fundraise when there is no marching season again? If a corps was using Bingo that is done. How can any corps sustain?
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Have I really been on DCP since 2007?
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I'll put two names that no one will know....
Pete Montanez....Geneseo Knights
Carleen Tesavis....Royal Coachmen (1972-76) Won many best drum major awards too.
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Craig Fattey was there
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IF 2021 does happen, and I don't think it will.....How can a show sponsor run a show? No contest the previous year and limited fans (if contest does happen). Where will the money come from to run a show, pay corps and all the other things that require money?
Maybe going back to an earlier time and do local contests might be the best plan. Smaller stadiums (instead of New Era Field in Buffalo, maybe Jamestown HS stadium).
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In all my years of marching , both junior and senior, the oddest place for me was...Hammondsport, NY! This quaint little village sits at the southern end of Keuka Lake (one of the Finger Lakes) and it was just a large field. I only remember my corps and Imperial Regiment (not sure if there were other corps). We won but the back of the field, where most corps started in 1976, was on the shore of the lake. The judges sat on top of a fire truck to judge. If anyone has scores that would be great!
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Congratulations!!!
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Supporting is always good HOWEVER....and I'll use my school as an example....we don't know if we can have in person, social distance concerts. Band director won't because bands are to big. I am awaiting word on a concert for my choirs, but if we can I have to have them with face shields and keep audience numbers low. So, 2 to 3 concerts in an evening spread out. So if my 1st year chorus sings at 6:30 pm, only 40 people will be in the audience (maybe).
Now what will a drum corps contest look like this summer IF there is a competitive season? If a show used to have 2,000 audience members this year could see.....maybe 400? How many of those audience members from the past will take a chance?
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I hate to see what the end of this school year has for teachers if we are in the same mode we are in now. Will teachers (especially arts teachers) be laid off or let go because schools will not be able to pay teachers? Think of all the music teachers who teach corps!
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So when I said "expert" I didn't mean the real ones
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So then, maybe, this would be an opportunity to take corps back to (let's say) early 1970's model. Local/regional shows and then the last two weeks all the major shows. I don't see Marion, Butler or Lynn shows returning but possibly DCI East, North, Midwest and South. West would have to be done earlier. All corps meet at DCI Championship.
Would this allow for growth in the activity again? I'm not the expert but many of you are, or so you say LOL
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Just my 3 cents....
Any individual working with a youth group should be thoroughly checked! GH got off lightly but that doesn't mean he'll walk around safe. He should be banned from all DCI and DCA events to include ALL High School marching band events!
He let young people down by his actions! His actions were ONLY for him! Only thinking about himself and what "power" he may have over young women. Reminds me of all the other people who had some "power" and took advantage of young people in the past. The same people that walked around protected for years. Karma gets those people some way, some how.
GH's name should be removed from EVERYTHING drum corps!!!
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.....doesn't happen, is that it for Drum Corps?
2 years without competitions has got to be rough for the corps in DCI and DCA to stay in business.
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I remember both corps well!
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I wonder which corps protested.
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November 4th should see a change. Maybe One party will stop what they're doing because they won or they'll stop because they lost.....LOL Yeh right!
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July 17, 1971
NY Legion State
Rochester NY
1 St. Joseph's of Batavia 80.450
2 Magnificent Yankees 79.200
3 Purple Lancers 73.800
4 Marauders 71.400
5 Appleknockers 69.500
6 Mello-Dears 68.100
7 OLPH Ridgemen 65.100
8 Mark Twain Cadets 62.350 -
I was there in 1971 but I don't remember the DQed from State.
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Decades ago I overheard some former St. Joe's (Batavia) members blaming DCI for their demise. As I marched through the 1970's I was lucky to compete against a lot of NY corps (Greece cadets, Squires, Black Knights, Gauchos, Mighty Liberators, Mark Twain Cadets, Marauders, Magnificent Yankees, Mello Dears, Lakeview Shoreliners/Imperial Regiment to name a few). Also going into Ontario, Canada, PA and OH. When corps disbanded or folded, most of the things you heard was management. I knew of an Upstate NY corps director that took money from the corps bingo games and once he was caught the corps, even though they had corporate sponsorship, went under.
Did DCI "force" all corps to do it their way? Did they dismantle US Open, A-I Open, World Open and other major shows?
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I think it makes sense! More so today than ever before. Some may not want "regionalization" BUT it makes sense in growing the activity, and corps to save money
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Lee Rudniki has a plan for DCI/DCA! I like it!
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Definitely Squires!
Favorite 1970's - 1980's NON DCI Top 12 Corps!
in Historical Junior Corps Discussions
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So many to choose from. For me I like the Squires (Watkins Glen).