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Madison Scouts 2005.

Sweet cymbal pun - but a fair question that I don’t have an answer to. I’d be curious to see a break down of cymbal players in DCI’s primary instruments.

Please elaborate on the educational value of playing in a cymbal line vs any other position in an ensemble. if education is your concern, why not field flub lines instead. My main reason for not having cymbals in my program is that I don’t want my students not drumming for 5 months. They’ll be better prepared for concert season (or the next marching season) playing a keyboard instrument or a flub drum vs cymbals. I was told in high school that marching drum corps was a waste of time and that I “would never make a dime playing a drum on a football field”. Marching drum corps changed my life for the better and it’s an experience I wish for anyone who wants to achieve it. But from the administrative side, I understand the cost vs. value of cymbals. It’s always hard to take away an opportunity for students to perform, but those 4/5 spots will go to other students who will now get to march.

As a Crossmen alum and band director in Texas, I would absolutely do the same thing if put in the position to make the call to cut the cymbal line. Cymbal lines don't provide any real value for the amount of investment involved for a drum corps show. The amount of time and effort composing their music, instructing, cleaning, paying a staff... all for something that will receive little to no credit in the grand scheme of the show doesn't make sense. Don't get me wrong, cymbals have a place in parades, in the stands at football games, and indoor drumline but they're unnecessary in DCI.

They already tried it and went back to the old way. There was a Perc 1 and Perc 2 judge from 04 - 09/10 ish (don't remember)?? One was field and one was Ensemble with the reasoning that between the two it would be a more fair assessment. I think it ended up costing more money and causing more issues than it helped solve.

Fair enough. As someone who marched 7 different corps, I liked playing drums, didn't really care what uniform I was wearing. Winning drums meant I (and my 30-something fellow drummers) did my job better than everyone else. Winning a ring meant someone designed a show better than everyone else and luckily all of the captions were ok enough to balance out the scores to win. GE wins rings, clean beats wins drums. I like clean beats.

I personally felt more accomplished after winning a Sanford. I was more a part of the success to winning the Sanford than I was to winning a ring.

I would have to agree with those who said any solo from BD 93 along with crossmen 04. The bari - trumpet duet is definately one of my fav combos.

Ricky Odello... 19 years between bdc, bdb, bda. thanks for posting the BD bass line interview btw... i forgot about that. bass lines never get the love

crossmen 04. boss drumline.

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topic on! while you being upset is understandable... being cut for any reason, just or unjust, doesn't feel good... but i've gotta side with the staff on this one... now maybe an outright initial "cut" wasn't in order... i have seen a few times a staff give those in question the opportunity to show improvement over time. but at the same time there are potentially hundreds of kids auditioning for this spot who've all not only worked on their playing/ spinning, but also their physical condition. they came into the audition knowing it was to be an athletic one as well. regardless of how talented one may be, they almost become a liability once they pass a certain size. 2002 blue devils soloist became a 2003 cut... why? weight. I have no clue how large you are or are not... but i could see/ have seen one's weight being a distraction from the show, especially in the guard. #1 the drill and physical demands could become an issue #2 it's a visual activity where there is an attempt made for all to look as one... if one looks like one and a half it doesn't quite work... hopefully that wasn't too unsensative...

that's because there were no "signals"... that's good ol' fashioned echo baby!

yeah i just got to check out the DVDs on a 52 inch 1080p w/ bluray player and all... and it was great to watch once through on mixed cam, then once through on high cam... now i'm bored. i'd pay an extra 20 for the extras on my age out DVD. i feel bad for those bluecoats cats who've never had a drum cam. finally made 6th... and now there's no drum cam...