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13 hours ago, musicteacher said:
Bossa,
Some of your early Star history is off. Jim Mason was not the brass arranger. Larry Kerchner was. Mason was management, with possibly a hand in design. I don't recall Michael Cesario being part of that team, although I could be wrong. DeLucia was indeed part of that team, but he was hardly poached. Bridgemen were done or nearly done by that time.
Not mentioned in your comments, but Prime and Hannum came later. Prime hadn't written for Cadets since 1984. Both Hannum and Zingali (as well as Sylvester) were with Cadets as late as 1988. I don't know if you could call them landing in Star a poaching. I believe they left of their own accord from Cadets. Brubaker wrote for Star early on.
Cesario was the brains behind the pink uniform and came in and consulted in the first year.
Mason did not arrange or teach brass. He was the corps director and program/staff coordinator.- 1
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I miss him.
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2 hours ago, GBugler said:
Knight came and spoke to the marching members at TLB (Star HQ) in 1993. I remember him being affable and it seemed to me that he was truly into what we were doing. I remember thinking that he sounded pretty much exactly like he did in the '89 Finals vignette where he praised the work ethic of D&BC marching members.
I never liked his coaching style or his on-court demeanor but it was a cool moment in my life that I'll never forget, getting a motivational pep talk from Bob Knight.
I think it was 1986 but the whole corps went and watched an IU basketball practice and the next day the basketball team came to Brown School to watch the corps rehearse. Bobby Knight and a couple of players walked up to the visual staff and were totally and honestly impressed with how hard the corps worked. They never knew.
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2 hours ago, Scooter Pirtle said:
Absolutely! And ditto!
Also, there are more than a few Star alums who joined the ranks of Cook Group and had (many still have) successful lifelong careers.
It’s almost hard to believe, but the lore is Star of Indiana was born in the stands of Grant Field at Georgia Tech during ‘84 championships week. So, between mid-August and audition camps (just over three months later), Cook got the properties, the staff, the equipment, and an infrastructure in place to start rehearsals.
100%!
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About Bill Cook, I highly recommend you read these books.
Ready, Fire, Aim!
The Bill Cook Story II: The Re-VisionaryI was there the first few years and saw everything. The design team, the admin team, the tour team, the board of directors all had people that had immense drum corps experience!
Every year before we went on tour the whole staff went to Cook Corp for a luncheon and we heard his vision. I met Bobby Knight on multiple occasions and even went to the basketball game when he threw the chair.
Mr. Cook was like an uncle to me. He was there when my father passed and was there when I was at Regiment, Blue Stars, and Crown. When he died, his son knew me by name and my story with Star. Tremendous people. The activity sorely misses Bill Cook's business acumen. If I had more room on the internet I could tell a very small fraction of all the stories of his giving to humanity... anonymously.
He guided a 21 year young man and encouraged my personal business growth. He even wrote a letter of recommendation for me that I wish I still had. It would be in a frame in my office. I am not who I am today without the guidance of Bill Cook.- 15
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One of them is from June and played out.
This one is fresh and we know what we know since Allentown.Don't want to play? Don't. = )
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I always thought World class should be earned and not given.
Please in the top 18-20 in Indy and you are a World Class corps.
Once you were in, it does not mean you can't fall out.
It would make things a little more competitive and interesting.
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Who are your top 12 (add 13th-15th for fun) and who are your caption award winners?
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10 minutes ago, dcikon2 said:
What are the gold arced equipment supposed to represent?
Earth or "the weight of the world"
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12 hours ago, Terri Schehr said:
Regarding Indy, the crowd gets younger as the days progress, with Saturday being the youngest, but depending what qualifies as “old fart,” I would say the 50-plus crowd is more than 12%.
Are the crowds getting younger... or are we getting older?
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15 hours ago, C.Holland said:
1. The last combo I purchased with a small drink and fries cost me $13.
2. You can’t feed members this crap 4 meals a day and expect them to perform well. Or last all season on it. It’s not nutritional.
3. your meal hour just turned into to 2 hours getting everyone to, fed, and from whatever your nearest to.
My point was not the quality of the food. The cost of buying something cheap to eat outside of drum corps equating it with the cost of being on tour.
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I say this every year when these type of threads are made.
Let's just say "Corps X's" tuition is $6000 a year.
- May 15 to the second Saturday in Aug is about 12 weeks - 6000/12 = $500 a week.
- 3 value meals from a fast food chain a day 3 meals a day x $8 meal = $24 - $24x84 days on tour and spring training = roughly $2000
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Back the food out and 84 days of drum costs - $48 a day! A great price for the experience.
A local soccer camp at a university this summer is $800 for 5 days / 4 nights with meals and housing - That equates to over $13000 for the 84 days of drum corps.
Last thought, If "Corps X" charges $6000 for the summer and has a $1.8 million budget, then tuition is only 50% of their budget and the rest is done through fundraising and sponsorships. So, in essence, each member in the corps gets 50% off their actual cost per person to start by the corps lowering the costs for everyone.
I believe that EVERY single drum corps needs one or more "side hustles" ... Bingo, CrownSTORE, music festivals... Something to have a revenue source outside of normal drum corps "business." If it is something outside of our drum corps world and will attract more customers? Even better!
Do I believe some expenses for the corps could be managed better? Could the tour help reduce cost? Those are all great questions that I am sure the the directors of the corps, their respective boards, and DCI are having conversation about.
As for the OP's dilemma? I would like to see more young people be in drum corps and for their to be more drum corps, but unfortunately, without a student getting financial help from their realm of friends and family or working your ### off and saving your money, drum corps is not for everyone. No matter how talented they are. I do know of some creative ways young people made money to march (that are legal). lol
I believe scholarships are also for members that have been in the corps for at least 2-3 years and not for people that jump from corps to corps. What if every age out with more than 2-3+ years with that corps marched for free if scholarships were only given to them? How great would that be?
Just my $0.02 from a guy that has some practical experience with this.
Flame away!
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Nimrod - Crown 2010
Ave Maria - Regiment 2006Simple Song - Garfield 83
Slaughter - Madison every year.
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19 hours ago, Jeff Ream said:
didn't USBands run a show there pre-pandemic?
US Bands ran show there for some time before the pandemic. I believe they ran a Monday or Tuesday show there this year.
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Okay, I'll play....
Jerry World in Dallas... or NRG in Houston!
Dome, lots of parking, hotels everywhere, plenty of schools to host corps in a 60 mile radius, huge airport that is a hub, kids in band camp, and school does not start until about a week after.- 2
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18 hours ago, Sutasaurus said:
That would change their style…..no?
no
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On 10/21/2022 at 7:14 PM, Slingerland said:
Tom Aungst lands at Cavaliers as an "Ensemble Specialist". Not quite sure that that job entails, but most/all of last year's perc staff is returning, so would seem to be a plus.
https://cavaliers.org/news-blog/2022/9/25/template-staff-announcement
Ensemble Specialist = The person that usually runs ensemble rehearsal and lines up the front ensemble, battery, and brass ... even guard... from a vertical alignment of time aspect and also how the small pieces of the ensemble fit into the whole. Balance and blend from the box standpoints is also a focus. These types of jobs in drum corps have been around for decades and people like Tom know how to fit all the musical nuances together into the whole. He is in a small group of people in the country that are masters at this job.
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Zingali once said to us, "When you are wearing that Cadet jacket, you are representing all of us. Think about that before you do anything dumb."
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18 hours ago, rpbobcat said:
Anyone think that DB's "retirement " may have something to do with the financial health of
the organization ?
it does not.
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Requesting for the mods to close this thread.
It is misleading from its start and has run its course.Thank you.
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3 hours ago, IllianaLancerContra said:
This is an excellent point - HR doesn't exist to keep the employees' best interests in mind; HR exists to keep the corporations' best interests in mind.
Some policies can be used as weapons, instead of shields.
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1 hour ago, Jeff Ream said:
where's the Palpatine meme about unlimited power when you need it
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I'm just sitting here thinking, what if the NFL didn't let teams announce their free agent signings until 2 weeks after the free agent period ended? You know who left what team, but you don't know where they've signed yet!
I love this time of year in drum corps. Tuesday will be an interesting day.- 2
The Cadets are being sued by a former member for alleged sexual abuse in the 80s
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Posted · Edited by njthundrrd
Mods. I sincerely request this topic be closed.
There is a fair amount of false and misleading information.
No one from the Cadets will be able to respond to any of this, especially on social media, for legal reasons.
Also, the comments here on DCP could be used by either legal side and that would be unfortunate.
Thank you.