Chris Rohn

Since we can't get real marching arts, we'll have to make do with fantasy for now...

DCI intentionally sped up the audio on an initial pressing to fit Brandt's announcements. A month or so later, due to complaints, DCI reissued the discs to those who had already received them (I have both sets!) because everyone complained about the tempo. I actually prefer the faster tempo versions with the complete introductions, but I definitely understand how it was an issue. I just wish they hadn't abridged the announcements.

Considering most of us die hards have pretty sweet spreadsheets to do the hard work for us, I'd say the point differences will be easy to navigate. For all I know we could go through a season of this and we still wouldn't use the lower corps. I'd be open to lowering the point values further but for proposal purposes I didn't want to get too mathematically extreme. As far as your comments on recruitment and interest, I think we should post to the main channels when registration opens and have an easier to navigate sign up page. I posted to the web page thread on that topic earlier today.

We really could use a refresh of the main DCPI web page to make it easier for people to figure out how to sign up for the game. Currently, the only way for people to sign up is to click on a word link buried in a paragraph. This has resulted in year over year declines in participation for a number of seasons. Fantasy marching games, in general, have seen a decline in usage because their platforms are not being updated. DCPI, in my opinion, is the only truly legit fantasy platform because we use actual real-time stats for gameplay. We need a home page that encourages sign-ups and reflects gameplay in line with modern sports - fantasy football, baseball, etc. I don't believe we need a wholesale re-write at this time, but we do need simpler navigation and visually engaging how-to's to help encourage new users to sign up, and when to sign up. Can anything be done simply to just clarify what DCPI is? Simple navigation buttons to make the site look and feel like an actual fantasy sports site would work wonders for participation.

Please reference the rules congress, as I have proposed a significant change to the game I believe is worth discussion and debate. Thanks!

Proposal: Reorganization of DCI ordinal values to accommodate true placements of World Class performing ensembles; modify DCPI points values to accommodate this change. Summary: The existing DCPI point values were put in place way back in 2010, and the activity has become significantly more competitive since then. It’s time to modernize and provide value to all corps. With the inclusion of Open Class corps in preliminary competition since 2011 and increased competition annually among all corps in prelims henceforth, there are World Class corps that consistently don’t make semifinals and therefore should not be placed on a 25 ordinal scale. Additionally, due to the increased competition and Open Class ensembles expected to petition for World Class tour inclusion, there very well may become more than 25 World Class ensembles in the coming years. In DCPI Season 28 I found, in the end, that it was entirely unnecessary to track the lower placing corps at all because the current point system doesn’t value these corps – even an ordinal value of 1 for Pioneer makes them unusable in the current fantasy system. To remedy this, I propose changing the system to accurately reflect the prior season’s ordinal placement and bring some value back to these lower placing corps. Execution: 1. Change individual corps ordinal values to reflect actual prior year placement: a. Example for a live season referencing 2018 corps ordinal placement: i. 40 – Santa Clara Vanguard ii. 39 – Blue Devils iii. 38 – Bluecoats iv. 37 – Carolina Crown v. 36 – Boston Crusaders vi. 35 – Cavaliers vii. 34 – Cadets viii. 33 – Blue Stars ix. 32 – Blue Knights x. 31 – Mandarins xi. 30 – Phantom Regiment xii. 29 – Crossmen xiii. 28 – Spirit of Atlanta xiv. 27 – Colts xv. 26 – Academy xvi. 25 – Madison Scouts xvii. 24 – Troopers xviii. 21 – Pacific Crest xix. 20 – Music City xx. 19 – Oregon Crusaders xxi. 17 – Genesis xxii. 14 – Seattle Cascades xxiii. 11 – Jersey Surf xxiv. 5 – Pioneer b. If the ordinal value referenced year’s preliminary competition features more than 40 performance ensembles, and a World Class corps places below 40th place, values for those corps will be at the lowest values of 1, 2, 3, etc., until an accurate ordinal value can be applied to a corps placement. c. Off-seasons henceforth will be limited to years 2011 to current, as this is the first year DCI included Open Class corps in preliminary competition in the current era. 2. Change the DCPI point scale in each class. This generally follows the mathematical principles of the current system but adds slightly increased point restrictions to encourage probabilities of lower placing corps use. To explain this easily, we'll get increased flexibility as the season progresses with 2 points added weekly, but the season values will mathematically end where we currently start each season. This is to encourage the use of lower placing groups. a. World Class: 230 points (0.71875 of 320; currently 0.75 of 200) i. Five weekly increases of 2 points on Sunday, final increase on Sunday two weeks prior to end of season, to Max 240 (0.75 of 320; currently 0.775 of 200) b. Open Class: 190 points (0.59375 of 320; currently 0.625 of 200) i. Five weekly increases of 2 points on Sunday, final increase on Sunday two weeks prior to end of season, to Max 200 (0.625 of 320; currently 0.65 of 200) c. A Class: 150 points (0.46875 of 320; currently 0.5 of 200) i. Five weekly increases of 2 points on Sunday, final increase on Sunday two weeks prior to end of season, to Max 160 (0.5 of 320; currently 0.525 of 200)

Ouch. Not sure how I'm going to salvage this!

Reevaluated my strategy and now I'm stressed out! haha I'm either going to sink or sail but 11th in WC isn't cutting it. I guess we'll see.

No complaints here! ;)

I messed up my A corps picks, so everyone have fun kicking my butt this week haha

Pleased with the day's results. Unspecified is here to shake things up.

When do scores usually get posted?

That's nice to know because the system lets me choose a corps over 20. I guess I'll revise so I'm not disqualified. Or is it a combined points / 2, because in that case I'm ok.

Unspecified.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and make some assumptions, please confirm if these assumptions are correct: GE Vis = GE 1 (Averaged) GE Mus = GE 2 (Averaged) Vis Perf = Vis Prof Vis Ens = Vis Ana CG = CG Brass = Brass Mus Ens = Mus Ana Mus Perc = Mus Perc (Averaged)

Alright, I'm ready to go. Dusting off my old spreadsheets, it appears I haven't played since... Season 15. Wow. Looking forward to kicking all of your butts this summer! XD

I dig all of these changes. Perhaps call this season a "trial run" on BD being a class of their own and put a vote on it in the rules congress. Also - Why is Music City not a selection? They are World Class this year and should have the 4 value considering they placed just behind Genesis in Semi Finals last year.

I'm re-registered but I think my corps need to be put into the system before I can select schedules and captions.

Looking forward to seeing everyone sign in!

In an effort to spur greater communication among us fantasy players, I present the fantasy discord server: https://discord.gg/HjeSmb6 We can either use it or forget about it but seems like it could be an "always on" useful thing for those of us who also discord. I plan on making the appropriate people the mods/managers if we choose to embrace it. Chris

Is there any place where we live chat about drum corps/marching arts in a chat, not forum format? FMA (Fantasy Marching Arts) has been lamenting not having live chat for a long time. I have had this chat/video combo space for a while at https://www.dubtrack.fm/join/marchingarts but honestly, I have no idea if a real-time drum corps chat exists. FMA is exploring a facebook chat idea but it requires people to friend one of the people to get in, I don't really like that idea and long term I don't think it'll go anywhere. Who has options? I'm kind of ok with this...

1972 and 1973 are available by printing this handy mail order form and sending a personal check or money order via snail mail to Madison, Wisconsin: https://drumcorpsworld.com/forms/2015-DVD-CD-order-blank.pdf

Plymouth Canton used an almost full field tarp in 2010 and I left jaw-dropped after seeing it. I still can't believe that show missed out on BOA finals that year, placing 13th.

Finally something based on actual quoted numbers in this thread. Thanks!