dccorpsfan Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 This is an interesting subject that you've raised.I believe that it supports the criticisms that exist regarding the adjudication process itself. In other words... do the corps actually earn those scores, or is it agreed upon that by a certain date (roughly), the judges begin to give out numbers based upon what has been considered acceptable, based upon past practice? Did corps "X" receive a 90.00 because they actually performed at that level, or did they receive a 90.00 because they are corps "X" and it's late July? Would a judge dare to not give a certain corps a particular score in late July, if they really felt that the corps didn't earn it? Would they be viewed as incompetent if they didn't give corps "X" a 90.00 in late July? Hmmm? ...HOOOOT POCKET! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_King Posted July 12, 2007 Author Share Posted July 12, 2007 From the name of this thread, I thought SCV had announced their 2010 show title...:P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScout80 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 do the corps actually earn those scores, Answer: yes or is it agreed upon that by a certain date (roughly), the judges begin to give out numbers based upon what has been considered acceptable, based upon past practice? Answer: yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScout80 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 (edited) I suspect that if the season lasted till mid-September, the top 7 corps at DCI would not be maxed out at 100 with the remaining top 12 in the mid-90s. Yet that is what should happen if they continue improving their shows. So clearly it is not an objective scale. The whole notion that there is anything remotely objective about scores is laughable. Edited July 12, 2007 by MadScout80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoHmempho04 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 From the name of this thread, I thought SCV had announced their 2010 show title...:P noooooooo their 2010 show is called "*". It's a show about the 90s baseball steroid era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 The whole notion that there is anything remotely objective about scores is laughable. I agree. If there were, then year over year scores would be comparable as well. But a 95 (for example) is not judged on the same scale as a 95 10 years age. It's just not. There is no way that every corps that got a 95 in the past ten years or so would score a 95 today with that same show. The numbers adjust themselves to the available scale of 0-100 and the given standard of excellence for the year. A judge looks at a show in June and scores it a 75 based on its potential to be 85 by July and 95 by August. In short -- scores are meaningless, but spread, and more importantly placement is what the judges are after, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 noooooooo their 2010 show is called "*". It's a show about the 90s baseball steroid era. Songs by BARRY white, the MCGWIRE sisters, JOSE fleciano, and SAMMY davis jr. ...... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemesiscorps Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 In short -- scores are meaningless, but spread, and more importantly placement is what the judges are after, imo. Yep. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourouttheforty Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 (edited) This is an interesting subject that you've raised.I believe that it supports the criticisms that exist regarding the adjudication process itself. In other words... do the corps actually earn those scores, or is it agreed upon that by a certain date (roughly), the judges begin to give out numbers based upon what has been considered acceptable, based upon past practice? Did corps "X" receive a 90.00 because they actually performed at that level, or did they receive a 90.00 because they are corps "X" and it's late July? Would a judge dare to not give a certain corps a particular score in late July, if they really felt that the corps didn't earn it? Would they be viewed as incompetent if they didn't give corps "X" a 90.00 in late July? Hmmm? Of course they earn the 90's. You're either Box 5 or you're not! Edited July 12, 2007 by fourouttheforty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScout80 Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Of course they earn the 90's. You're either Box 5 or you're not! I agree scores are earned, and I'll agree that there are criteria that attempt to standardize things. But the criteria are ultimately subjective. Box 5 in 1997 was different than Box 5 in 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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