MikeD Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 I think, Mike that many Roman Catholic Church sponsored corps out grew their parishes.As I said in another thread, we were asked to leave St. Joseph because too many of the corps members were from outside of the neighborhood. I may have misspoke in that earlier post about why "St. Rita's Brassmen" became simply "The Brassmen" after '72 - my age out year. I have since heard that Father Schiraldi was sent to another parish and the new Monsignor was not - let us say - 'as dedicated' to drum corps. The corps I remember from the Tri State Area of New York City: (and I'm sure there were more) St. Rocco's St. Catherine's os Sienna Queensmen Our Lady of Loretta Our Lady Of Perpetual Health Ridgemen Blessed Sacrament Golden Knights The OLC Ramblers St. Lucy's Cadets St. Joseph's of Batavia Saint Kevin's Emerald Knights. Puppet I thought St Kevin's was from the Boston area???? I think there were all sorts of reasons why drum corps were abandoned by the church groups...a lot of them for financial reasons I would think. You also had the huge change in society in the late 60's where a lot of the older bastions of respect (the hated 'Establishment') were no longer respected as they had been a few years earlier, esp in the urban areas. Parents and kids were not looking to the church, PAL, etc...as place to "be", so to speak. St Martin's in Newark was folded by their moderator after having a huge fight with, I think, St Andrew's...right on the field at retreat of the Garden State Circuit champs in 69. Or was it with the Riversiders...the mind forgets these days! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Boo Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Resulting from an inquiry I put on on DCP a couple weeks ago, there are three Fanfare columns on DCI.org scheduled for Wednesday, Thursday and Friday on church-sponsored corps. Due to some major things that were being released today and required the full attention of the web content guy, the articles will run Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Drum Corps Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Many of us in St. Joe's from BATAVIA actually lived in ROCHESTER. Then we picked a number of guys from Niagara County areas like Sanborn, etc. At the time we thought we just had a church sponsored name. Donny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppet Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 From Michael Boo "I thought St Kevin's was from the Boston area????" You know, you could be right. But they, like the short lived Queensmen were such a huge force in the early sixties, it was like they from our back yard - 'Course my memory is suffering from a severe case of C.R.A.F.T.! Puppet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Cavalier TDY Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 The Precious Blood Cardinals of Scarborough, Ontario, Canada were active from the 1970 season through to the 1978 season. I believe the parish pulled their sponsorship in the spring of 1979. I don't remember if they actually fielded a corps that year, but the director, Jim Towey, managed to start up a self sponsored group at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lp1955 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 (edited) I thought St Kevin's was from the Boston area????I think there were all sorts of reasons why drum corps were abandoned by the church groups...a lot of them for financial reasons I would think. You also had the huge change in society in the late 60's where a lot of the older bastions of respect (the hated 'Establishment') were no longer respected as they had been a few years earlier, esp in the urban areas. Parents and kids were not looking to the church, PAL, etc...as place to "be", so to speak. St Martin's in Newark was folded by their moderator after having a huge fight with, I think, St Andrew's...right on the field at retreat of the Garden State Circuit champs in 69. Or was it with the Riversiders...the mind forgets these days! :) You are right Mike it was St. Martins and the Bridgemen while we were at our buses celebrating our victory St. Martins marched right into us and started a big brawl Edited November 1, 2007 by lp1955 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHall Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 The Precious Blood Cardinals of Scarborough, Ontario, Canada were active from the 1970 season through to the 1978 season. I believe the parish pulled their sponsorship in the spring of 1979. I don't remember if they actually fielded a corps that year, but the director, Jim Towey, managed to start up a self sponsored group at some point. They were just known as the Cardinals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Drum Corps Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 At Greece Cadets the kids called them "Bucket of Blood" Cardinals...I think my brother Tom came up with that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Cavalier TDY Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 I think they played music from 'Captain Blood' off the line one year. Maybe that's where the name came from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabalumnidrummer Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 The corps I remember from the Tri State Area of New York City: (and I'm sure there were more)St. Rocco's St. Catherine's of Sienna Queensmen Our Lady of Loretta Our Lady Of Perpetual Health Ridgemen Blessed Sacrament Golden Knights The OLC Ramblers St. Lucy's Cadets St. Joseph's of Batavia Saint Kevin's Emerald Knights. Puppet These are just the competing 'm&m' field corps that Puppet has named. At one point, almost every parish in the Brooklyn Diocese (consisting of Brooklyn and Queens) had a drum corps of some sort, be it fife and drum, drum and bugle, bell and drum or a combination of fife, drum, bugle and also bells. This is the type of corps I started in, and I never marched a junior m&m corps. Some names for you, in no particular order: St. Catherine of Sienna 'Marianettes,' (field corps, & 'sister corps' to the Queensmen) St. Camillus, Rockaway Beach St. Joseph's Brigade, Astoria Our Lady of Fatima 'Blue Lancers,' Jackson Heights St. Clare's 'Golden Emeralds,' Rosedale St. Robert's 'Robertones,' Bayside Our Lady of the Snows 'Stormy Knights,' Floral Park (later went m&m) St. Anselm's Fife and Drum, Bay Ridge Most Precious Blood 'Crusaders,' Bensonhurst SS. Joachim and Anne, Queens Village Our Lady of Perpetual Help Fife and Drum Corps, Bay Ridge ('sister corps' to the Ridgemen) St. Rita's, Long Island City St. Barbara's, Brooklyn St Matthias 'Blue Max,' Ridgewood (later went m&m) Miraculous Medal 'Orbits,' Ridgewood/Maspeth (later went m&m) St. Aloysius, Ridgewood St. Fidelis 'Majestic Knights,' College Point St. Pascal's, Jamaica Our Lady of Angels 'Blue Angels,' Brooklyn St. Adalbert's, Maspeth In the 1960's and early 70's, almost all of these corps were all active at the same time. These were mostly neighborhood parade and standstill corps. They drew most members from the parish school, and some grew to be quite large and went into field competition. Quite a few had multiple groups, with beginners and 'feeder' corps in their organizations. Also, many were taught by big names (like Tommy Martin, Bobby Thompson, George Rodriguez, Ernie Fesler, Cal Meyers), and were the training grounds for many of us who went on to big-name junior or senior corps. Many of their former members are still marching in seniors and alumni corps today. By the way, only two of these remain today: St. Joseph's and St. Clare's, and I teach drum to both of them. Sadly, the Church-sponsored corps are nearly extinct in the NY area. Most of it has to do with economics, and changing attitudes of parish and school staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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