corps_forever07 Posted July 20, 2008 Author Share Posted July 20, 2008 Wow, I disagree with you on so many things. BUT MAINLYCavaliers visual was NOT clean at all unless you are referring to the VIS GE. The difference from person to person was very apparent to me. I was shocked at the level of their marching. Unless I specified in the review, I generally meant form-wise. I thought Cavies and Cadets looked great tonight in that respect. Technique was hard to see because of the quality of the broadcast when you full-screen it and the limited showing of feet on the multi-cam. Like I said, I'm no expert, I just marched a few years. Those were just my opinions and observations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC in the saddle Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 >Like I said, I'm no expert, I just marched a few years. Those were just my opinions and observations! Thanks for the review. For the most part, I agree with your review - I watched the webcast and found it really only good for hi-cam viewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 I agree, but was shocked to see crown beat the cavies in GE VisualCavies were 4th from both GE Visual judges? I'd agree with you, St Marys64 that Cavies 4th in GE Visual seemed a tad befuddling.. This caption over the recent years tends to be a caption they typically own. My guess, it might have had something to do with a soso performance execution ( for them )of their visual show last night. I did witness some visual patterns that didn't quite come together as designed and wern't perfomed quite as flawlessly as we usually get with the Cavies at this point in the season. But who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musical_Spinner Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Unless I specified in the review, I generally meant form-wise. I thought Cavies and Cadets looked great tonight in that respect. Technique was hard to see because of the quality of the broadcast when you full-screen it and the limited showing of feet on the multi-cam.Like I said, I'm no expert, I just marched a few years. Those were just my opinions and observations! Well you didn't specify so I asked. I was down low at the show.....it wasn't pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SopMaster Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 (edited) All I want to ask is, what were you watching? The Cadets - I know that the majority of people hate the narration and I'm no different, but I'm looking past it tonight. I don't really have a whole lot to say though. They look huge. They're really good. Their high brass is phenomenal. There high brass sound bright and nasallyTheir colorguard is like late-ninties, early-millennium Cadets guards. And they talk a lot. That's it. It's a great show! Santa Clara Vanguard - Pete Weber really outdid himself! That being said, it's dirty. The only reason this show isn't top 3 is it is dirty. And because their horns, guard, etc.. I'm loving this visual package more than anything. The uniforms, the guard, everything. Some inconsistencies in the hornline, but I'm nitpicking. Their show is by far one of my favorites of the night so far, and I don't see that changing. It's old school Vanguard at it's finest and toward the end of this decade. That's cool as hell and they were wonderful (minus the girl out of the diagonal that they did a close-up on at the end - oops). Phantom Regiment - The show I've been waiting for. From when they walk on the field with the chains (amps?) and the slaves, they conveyed Spartacus so well. The new color scheme is absolutely perfect for them. The guard still blends into the field a bit, but they convey the image, so it almost doesn't even matter. The opening fanfare is sick and it's very apparent why they're scoring at the top in brass lately. Umm listen again, because the opening fanfare sounded sloppy in SA. It was unclear and frack city for the trumpets. They sounded tired and not as strong as I have heard them at other showsTheir feet look better than any corps (except for maybe The Cadets) and they're in white pants.WHAT!?! I cant even resong to that. The Cavies, Cadets, and BD have better feet. PS. All solid colors are easy to hide. Try a white strip down one leg Drill is harder than anyone so far and proportionately dirty.Harder? Maybe because they are making it look harder. Cavies, Cadets, and I would say Crown have more difficult visual programs They move. Some of the close-ups while doing so looked a little less than stellar in the upper body. Overall, what a phenomenal throwback and product in general. Phantom is the perfect example of taking entertainment and class and putting something great out on the field every year. This year epitomizes that statement. Blue Devils - This show reminds me of Not the Nutcracker - weird for the sake of being weird - but much, much more intense and better. The thing the guard does with the tenors - lifting - is gimmicky and it takes away from the music. Thats one of the coolest moments. Thats never been done and is super creative/innovative The guard is great though. Fabulous use of color from the absurd unis to the flags. The tightrope effect is cool (a little reminiscent of the Bluecoats 07 jailbreak) and the running theme they do throughout is a good effect as well. The pit is strikingly good, but I thought the drumline sounded significantly more dirty than Phantom's.What is your background? Are you a percussionists or are you just putting this because you read it somewhere? Love the show, but not enough for it to win. You love the show huh? Hmmm...I smell a hater. Have you even seen the show live??? It just isn't hard and impressive enough for that. Again, what drugs are you doing? What a great ending though. The Cavaliers - I don't like the samurai garb at all, unfortunately. The show, on the other hand, I do. The horns are s-o-l-i-d yeah solidly just okay...and the visual program is typical Cavaliers - hard, clean, good. Worthy of a championship, as it stands right now. HAHAHAHA I love the Cavies but this show doesnt TOUCH their 00, 02, 03, 04, or even 06 shows. I would venture to say that I like their Chicago show more than this yearsThere are a lot of little nuances that make this show and give it 'wow' factors. The thing is to make it consistently a 'wow' factor straight through the whole show. That's what shows like Four Corners and Frameworks had that this doesn't yet. Overall, a fantastic show, all things aside. Yeah, a fanstastic VISUAL package and thats it Carolina Crown - Why are they performing last? I thought this show was boring. OMG, are you serious?! I cant even respond to that..A show about finishing, you would think it'd be okay, but it was boring. Brass was good. Visual, not as good as Cavaliers. That's all I really have to say. It just bored me. Not a hater, just bored. No, you're a hater All I have to say is, thank the Lord on high that you are not a DCI judge. Edited July 21, 2008 by SopMaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray3 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 All I have to say is, thank the Lord on high that you are not a DCI judge. Ditto for you. I'm not sure what your intent was with your response. You come across as juvenile and unwilling to accept that 2 people will have different views of the same show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeutralNovice Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 (edited) All I want to ask is, what were you watching?All I have to say is, thank the Lord on high that you are not a DCI judge. Wow. What a.... [blank]. --- Thank you corps_forever for your review. I enjoyed reading it. Edited July 21, 2008 by NeutralNovice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SopMaster Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 No, I just dont see a point in a review if the person wasn't there or the person hasn't seen the shows in person. Just MY opinion. Sorry but some of the things said in the review were just ridiculous to me. Sorry... This is a useless review from videos on FanNatwork and I really think it was made just to knock some of the corps. Right after I read it I thought, this person is just trying to talk up her favorite corps and hate on others. Come on. Crown..boring? Really? BD's show not hard and impressive?? What? Phantom has the hardest drill??? Cavies show worthy of a Championship?? Really, over BD and Phantom?? REALLY!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pags Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 All I will say is that a review based on the Fan Network videos is a bad idea, simply because the live effect is so much different. The way the microphones pick up the sound and then they way that sound is transferred to computer speakers dramatically distorts the sound, and the distance of the pressbowx camera for the wide-angle, full-field view is blurry and distorts the visual perception. I was there in San Antonio on the third tier, and then came home yesterday and watched some of the videos on Fan Network. I had to turn it off because the recording quality, while "good", did not match what I had heard and seen. So many nuances in brass blend, percussion technical excellence, and color guard exposure, etc simply do not translate onto the Fan Network videos. That's not to say that you're not entitled to you perception; heck, it's not like all 15,000 people at the Alamodome agreed on quality, difficulty, and entertainment simply because we were all in the same place. But the dome presents enough issues by itself for listening quality; filtering that further through a webcast and computer speakers is going to make it that much more inaccurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan H. Turner Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 No, I just dont see a point in a review if the person wasn't there or the person hasn't seen the shows in person. Just MY opinion. Sorry but some of the things said in the review were just ridiculous to me. Sorry...This is a useless review from videos on FanNatwork and I really think it was made just to knock some of the corps. Right after I read it I thought, this person is just trying to talk up her favorite corps and hate on others. Come on. Crown..boring? Really? BD's show not hard and impressive?? What? Phantom has the hardest drill??? Cavies show worthy of a Championship?? Really, over BD and Phantom?? REALLY!?! What is your issue dude? I thought the Velvet Knights should have won the championships in 1992. SO? After 41 posts here on DCP, maybe you should temper your expectations a tad, eh? This is a REVIEW area, and people's opinions may be ill-informed or "wrong", but to lambaste someone for thinking a corps is boring is pretty dumb. I think some corps are pretty boring, and I don't like the Blue Devils. Doesn't change anyone's mind but gives a different perspective. She wasn't trying to brainwash anyone into changing their mind was she? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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