SaturdayNightLights Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 On 5/10/2022 at 1:47 AM, Liahona said: Is there a reason this thread has been resurrected? Just curious about that is all... I couldn't track down the original document anywhere and figured that people seeing this was the best chance for me to find that again. It worked ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterGibbons Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/11/2022 at 7:27 AM, keystone3ply said: Can someone post the proposal or give us a short summary in a "Cliff Notes" version? Who were the G7 members? Was this the proposal by GH to break off & form a new "DCI" type of organization? Never forget? 🤔 https://1drv.ms/b/s!Amqf9SBunYgVhi7dTEBnZU8TaVyM?e=ye33LD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwillis35 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 I think the G7 was SCV, BD, Cadets, Bluecoats, Carolina Crown, Cavaliers, and Phantom. Not positive. The gist of the whole thing was a sort of unionized grouping in an effort to propose and demand certain changes from DCI on everything from how shows ran, what the G7 corps should make per show (vs other corps considering they were the big draw), the future structure of DCI and much more. I believe it was from the G7 talks that we got the TOC (Tournament of Champion) shows, which now seem to have died out. These were not DCI sponsored shows. The one thing I did like about the TOC shows was the random placement of the 7 corps. Also, I seem to remember that at many of the TOC shows they allowed an 8th corps. But I might be wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waliman4444 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Not including some of the redundancy, I thought the document's grammatical errors gave the appearance of being hastily produced...That it was never fully realized does not surprise ..just my opinion...I'm just a fan..peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Guns Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 9 hours ago, jwillis35 said: I think the G7 was SCV, BD, Cadets, Bluecoats, Carolina Crown, Cavaliers, and Phantom. Not positive. The gist of the whole thing was a sort of unionized grouping in an effort to propose and demand certain changes from DCI on everything from how shows ran, what the G7 corps should make per show (vs other corps considering they were the big draw), the future structure of DCI and much more. I believe it was from the G7 talks that we got the TOC (Tournament of Champion) shows, which now seem to have died out. These were not DCI sponsored shows. The one thing I did like about the TOC shows was the random placement of the 7 corps. Also, I seem to remember that at many of the TOC shows they allowed an 8th corps. But I might be wrong. The one thing I loved about the random placement, was that BD put to bed this notion they win cause they go on last most of the time. In the TOC, we saw BD go on first, second and so forth, and still win majority of the time. If you are the best that particular year, doesn't matter when/where you perform. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keystone3ply Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, PeterGibbons said: https://1drv.ms/b/s!Amqf9SBunYgVhi7dTEBnZU8TaVyM?e=ye33LD 10 hours ago, jwillis35 said: I think the G7 was SCV, BD, Cadets, Bluecoats, Carolina Crown, Cavaliers, and Phantom. Not positive. The gist of the whole thing was a sort of unionized grouping in an effort to propose and demand certain changes from DCI on everything from how shows ran, what the G7 corps should make per show (vs other corps considering they were the big draw), the future structure of DCI and much more. I believe it was from the G7 talks that we got the TOC (Tournament of Champion) shows, which now seem to have died out. These were not DCI sponsored shows. The one thing I did like about the TOC shows was the random placement of the 7 corps. Also, I seem to remember that at many of the TOC shows they allowed an 8th corps. But I might be wrong. So after quickly perusing the G7 document, I thinking "Iron Cross" wouldn't have been allowed to perform with their highest scores in the low teens? (I think I saw them at a show in TN or AL while in high school?) 😁 There's actually a few good ideas in the document as far as public & community relations. Edited May 15, 2022 by keystone3ply cx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, keystone3ply said: So after quickly perusing the G7 document, I thinking "Iron Cross" wouldn't have been allowed to perform with their highest scores in the low teens? (I think I saw them at a show in TN while in college? Wow) 😁 There's actually a few good ideas in the document as far as public & community relations. Crossmen feeder that didn’t last past a few seasons, that’s all I remember. I read G7 overview and at the time thought DCI was heading towards 12-14 corps only. Those corps would spilt into 2 groups and tour together to save $$$ (group up on gas, food, etc). Then mid tour shuffle the groups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keystone3ply Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 37 minutes ago, JimF-LowBari said: Crossmen feeder that didn’t last past a few seasons, that’s all I remember. I read G7 overview and at the time thought DCI was heading towards 12-14 corps only. Those corps would spilt into 2 groups and tour together to save $$$ (group up on gas, food, etc). Then mid tour shuffle the groups. That makes sense. My lack of knowledge HS brain had no clue of the drum corps scoring model. In my HS years, I just thought anything below a 90 was really bad. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwillis35 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Chief Guns said: The one thing I loved about the random placement, was that BD put to bed this notion they win cause they go on last most of the time. In the TOC, we saw BD go on first, second and so forth, and still win majority of the time. If you are the best that particular year, doesn't matter when/where you perform. Very true. I think there was this notion that some random draw, like what happened in Kansas City in 1988 would produce varying results, but that was not the case. And to be fair to Madison Scouts in 1988 they were a corps that simply had to play catch-up after their European tour but ultimately they had a show worthy of winning if they cleaned it. Some thought Madison came from nowhere to win, but in reality they were .4 off of SCV 4 days before Semi Finales in Kansas City. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllianaLancerContra Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 (edited) I wonder what DCI looks like in the parallel universe where the G7 proposal was accepted? Edited May 15, 2022 by IllianaLancerContra speling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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