TchMuzk Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Scouts lose to Vanguard by about a point. Yet the recap is surprisingly not yet posted... hmm, wonder why 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecoats88 Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Scouts lose to Vanguard by about a point. Yet the recap is surprisingly not yet posted... hmm, wonder why probably because the people who post the recaps are driving to minnesota and will post them when they gat to their hotel and have an internet connection. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevedb1975 Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Scouts lose to Vanguard by about a point. Yet the recap is surprisingly not yet posted... hmm, wonder why Just talked to someone in the know this morning who said Madison won brass, ensemble music, GE Music and Color Guard. SCV won the other captions. It's a close one, folks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BozzlyB Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Just talked to someone in the know this morning who said Madison won brass, ensemble music, GE Music and Color Guard. SCV won the other captions. It's a close one, folks. This is interesting. When Blue Stars saw SCV a few days ago the spread was almost identical, and Blue Stars won GE music, Ensemble visual, Brass, and one ensemble music sub caption. As with Scouts, the biggest factor was percussion with Blue Stars being .5 down from SVC in that caption. Things are getting impossible to predict, other than to say it's going to be SOOOO close! Fun stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUARDLING Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 This is interesting. When Blue Stars saw SCV a few days ago the spread was almost identical, and Blue Stars won GE music, Ensemble visual, Brass, and one ensemble music sub caption. As with Scouts, the biggest factor was percussion with Blue Stars being .5 down from SVC in that caption. Things are getting impossible to predict, other than to say it's going to be SOOOO close! Fun stuff. all this stuff is as you say FUN for the audiance BUT is it good competition or not so good judging..We tend to like the close races in this activity BUT are these corpsm getting the proper information from these judges to improve or are they just flying by the seat of their pants because of mis information..personally I think its the latter and doesnt make me personally happy with the ( fun competition aspect of it ) JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecoats88 Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 all this stuff is as you say FUN for the audiance BUT is it good competition or not so good judging..We tend to like the close races in this activity BUT are these corpsm getting the proper information from these judges to improve or are they just flying by the seat of their pants because of mis information..personally I think its the latter and doesnt make me personally happy with the ( fun competition aspect of it ) JMO no, what these close scores say to me is that these corps are in essence equal and on any night based on the judging panel and the performance the order of PR, SCV, Scouts, BS, BK, Boston could change. This is the same situation which occurred finals week 2007 with SCV, Crown, & Bluecoats. those 3 corps were in essence equal and depending on which judges and that night's performance the order change but the scores were withing tenths of each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUARDLING Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 (edited) no, what these close scores say to me is that these corps are in essence equal and on any night based on the judging panel and the performance the order of PR, SCV, Scouts, BS, BK, Boston could change. This is the same situation which occurred finals week 2007 with SCV, Crown, & Bluecoats. those 3 corps were in essence equal and depending on which judges and that night's performance the order change but the scores were withing tenths of each other. well that is one way to look at it,...ive just heard some tapes on a few corps that are kinda outrageous and dont indicate what you are saying at all..sounds like so much smoke being blown up Butts....But it is what it is Edited July 14, 2011 by GUARDLING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjordansc Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 well that is one way to look at it,...ive just heard some tapes on a few corps that are kinda outrageous and dont indicate what you are saying at all..sounds like so much smoke being blown up Butts....But it is what it is Maybe you can expand on this thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BozzlyB Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 (edited) all this stuff is as you say FUN for the audiance BUT is it good competition or not so good judging..We tend to like the close races in this activity BUT are these corpsm getting the proper information from these judges to improve or are they just flying by the seat of their pants because of mis information..personally I think its the latter and doesnt make me personally happy with the ( fun competition aspect of it ) JMO I'm not even really sure what you're talking about there soooooo....... Ok makes more sense after reading your next post, however still not sure how your point about bad judging comments leads to tight races. Edited July 14, 2011 by BozzlyB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BozzlyB Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 no, what these close scores say to me is that these corps are in essence equal and on any night based on the judging panel and the performance the order of PR, SCV, Scouts, BS, BK, Boston could change. This is the same situation which occurred finals week 2007 with SCV, Crown, & Bluecoats. those 3 corps were in essence equal and depending on which judges and that night's performance the order change but the scores were withing tenths of each other. I like to think it is less because of performance order and judging panel, and more just which corps were better on any given night. No one corps performs exactly the same contest to contest, so I think it's more likely that a corps having a stellar performance, or having an off night that creates the change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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