Stradbrother Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Hey everyone. So yea, I know there is already a topic on this, but in the next year or two Platinum is going to switch to Kanstul G bugles. What do you guys think? I know a few guys who are marching Platinum this year, and they expect it to bring A LOT of new attention. Member-wise and fan=wise. Now I havnt had a chance to see Platinum yet, (But I am competing against them this year) I think with a good musical selection, they can really tear it up. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayre Kulp Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I think it would be great to see a junior corps return to the traditional G bugles. Without starting up the old debate about which is better (both have the ups and downs) I will say that there is a different sonority between the two and Kanstul is a legendary manufacturer of these instruments. I look forward to seeing and hearing them with their new horns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoutsaj Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 I am Glad to See that G Bugles are still being used in the Drum Corps Communities...Wish a few in the top 12 would go back to thier Roots.. You would think that DCI would have some type of Points Addition for using G Bugles like 1.5 on Music and GE for staying with the Bugle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornandsoccer Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Great idea in theory. That is, if you don't mind the additional intonation headaches, which will only be compounded by the likely reality of this being a relatively young hornline. Not hatin', just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMBob Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Great idea in theory. That is, if you don't mind the additional intonation headaches, which will only be compounded by the likely reality of this being a relatively young hornline. Not hatin', just saying. I do not really understand the idea that a horn in a different key plays less in tune. As long as the players can hear it, and the quality of the horn is okay, the key does not make a difference. Symphonic trumpeters play horns in C, Bb, D, Eb, and even A...sometimes in the same concert. The performers have to learn how to hear the key - the bad notes and partials are the same as on any other brass instrument, with peculiarities to each individual horn, which can't be avoided in any key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiodb Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I do not really understand the idea that a horn in a different key plays less in tune. That's because it's a myth. In fact, a hornline all in the key of G has an advantage over a mixed line of Bb/F instruments, where intonation trends are sometimes in opposition. Some contend that G bugles are more out of tune because players accustomed to Bb/F need time to adjust. Of course, players need time to adjust to any new instrument (and I don't see kids using their own instruments with the corps), so that is a moot point. It takes time to develop good intonation. Put that time in on either G or Bb/F, and you can get good results. Until then, your results will suffer no matter what key your horns are in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayre Kulp Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 It's like I always said - a good musician can make any instrument sound good. Want proof? Google Pepe Notaro. Or simply watch Dick Pomerleau play a solo on a slip-slide bugle at DCA's I&E competition. Hell, even Lance Armstrong knew it's not all about the bike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelloHorn13 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Great idea in theory. That is, if you don't mind the additional intonation headaches, which will only be compounded by the likely reality of this being a relatively young hornline. Not hatin', just saying. My friend, that's where a good instructor come into play. Develop your inner ear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornandsoccer Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 My friend, that's where a good instructor come into play. Develop your inner ear. My ear's just fine, thank you. I'm talking in practical terms, especially with the reality of the open class hornline (perhaps generalizing too much). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 That's because it's a myth. In fact, a hornline all in the key of G has an advantage over a mixed line of Bb/F instruments, where intonation trends are sometimes in opposition. Some contend that G bugles are more out of tune because players accustomed to Bb/F need time to adjust. Of course, players need time to adjust to any new instrument (and I don't see kids using their own instruments with the corps), so that is a moot point. It takes time to develop good intonation. Put that time in on either G or Bb/F, and you can get good results. Until then, your results will suffer no matter what key your horns are in. It does take students some time to ajust to the g bugles, usually about 10 minutes. I am glad to see G bugles back, and Kanstuls are great horns (I play one). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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