N.E. Brigand Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 31 minutes ago, garfield said: They system now in place protects SCV from the stink now emanating from WI (not to suggest SCV doesn't, or does, have its own stink. Only that the negative press has been mostly contained to the corps involved and DCI in the mistaken belief that it has the power (currently) to do much of anything at the individual corps level. This seems well put in more ways than one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ediker Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, garfield said: If that were actually true, they'd not agree to any ceding of power or control at all. They system now in place protects SCV from the stink now emanating from WI (not to suggest SCV doesn't, or does, have its own stink. Only that the negative press has been mostly contained to the corps involved and DCI in the mistaken belief that it has the power (currently) to do much of anything at the individual corps level. I thought everyone knew, SCV's sh## don't stink! Edited August 24, 2018 by Ediker added t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ediker Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, garfield said: If that were actually true, they'd not agree to any ceding of power or control at all. They system now in place protects SCV from the stink now emanating from WI (not to suggest SCV doesn't, or does, have its own stink. Only that the negative press has been mostly contained to the corps involved and DCI in the mistaken belief that it has the power (currently) to do much of anything at the individual corps level. DCI is the member corps. You are correct that there is support to strengthen the ability for DCI's board to act when problems are not being addressed at the corps level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 21 hours ago, Ediker said: DCI is the member corps. You are correct that there is support to strengthen the ability for DCI's board to act when problems are not being addressed at the corps level. strengthen the board yes. not to have more outside voices 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slingerland Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jeff Ream said: strengthen the board yes. not to have more outside voices Properly built Boards are there to watch guard the corporation and sometimes save the shareholders from shooting themselves in the foot. Outside perspective is a key component of the ability to be objective in supporting the paid Exectives in their pursuit of best practices and strongest growth. DCI has tried it the co-op route for the last 47 years, the net result being that as a business, they're laughably small given the impact the work presented has on the larger music education community worldwide. A board made up of interested individuals who know the activity but who have real-world experience driving large businesses (not small non-profits) will be much more useful in getting the screws turning and generating revenues than the current "PTO board" makeup. There should be a separate rules committee board for the corps execs to argue about competition rules (which are, and should be, of no interest to the corporation Board), and leave the real Board to focus on revenue growth and strategic partnerships, something the current model apparently has no interest in pursuing. Edited August 25, 2018 by Slingerland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Slingerland said: Properly built Boards are there to watch guard the corporation and sometimes save the shareholders from shooting themselves in the foot. Outside perspective is a key component of the ability to be objective in supporting the paid Exectives in their pursuit of best practices and strongest growth. DCI has tried it the co-op route for the last 47 years, the net result being that as a business, they're laughably small given the impact the work presented has on the larger music education community worldwide. A board made up of interested individuals who know the activity but who have real-world experience driving large businesses (not small non-profits) will be much more useful in getting the screws turning and generating revenues than the current "PTO board" makeup. There should be a separate rules committee board for the corps execs to argue about competition rules (which are, and should be, of no interest to the corporation Board), and leave the real Board to focus on revenue growth and strategic partnerships, something the current model apparently has no interest in pursuing. I don’t disagree with what a properly run board should be. I’m saying that they’d have to give up power. It’s like getting congress to enact term limits for themselves. Giving up power is truly scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E3D Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 On 8/24/2018 at 11:01 AM, garfield said: I think you'd be surprised how much acceptance has already been voiced from the Top-xx. NOT really. BUT keep smoking on that pipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E3D Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 On 8/24/2018 at 11:29 AM, garfield said: If that were actually true, they'd not agree to any ceding of power or control at all. They system now in place protects SCV from the stink now emanating from WI (not to suggest SCV doesn't, or does, have its own stink. Only that the negative press has been mostly contained to the corps involved and DCI in the mistaken belief that it has the power (currently) to do much of anything at the individual corps level. someone is passing a turd and your reply is the same. LOL. lets just imagine that negative is the truth and DCI is just not able to do a thing not one thing. "Buses broke down" brah..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, E3D said: someone is passing a turd and your reply is the same. LOL. lets just imagine that negative is the truth and DCI is just not able to do a thing not one thing. "Buses broke down" brah..... There are boards of corps in favor of a sweeping change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 48 minutes ago, E3D said: NOT really. BUT keep smoking on that pipe. You'd not be surprised, or there's not really any support for change among the corps? Just trying to make sure I'm following you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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