Larry Rouse Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 I am trying to get more information about 3 coins I have in my possession. One gold, one silver, and one bronze. How many were made? How rare are these? Any approximate value? Are there more still available? Thanks for the assist. The all say the same thing: On one side they have, "Jim Jones Years" at the top, "America's Corps" at the bottom, a picture of a Troopers hat on top of a pair of gloves in the middle, and "one troy ounce" under that. On the flip side: "Troopers" at the top "1958" on the left "1988" on the right "30th anniversary" at the bottom. In the middle it has the Troopers crossed swords emblem, with the "11" above it, and "Casper Wyoming" below that. The Gold and Silver coins are both numbered "00122", the bronze is not numbered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPendergrass Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Any approximate value? In many cases these days, the value of the melt metal far outweighs the numismatic value of the round (it cannot be referred to as a coin because it is not and has never been legal US tender). Assuming they are accurately listed and are bullion based rounds: $1668.00 $32.24 The term "troy" can only legally apply to pure (greater than 98% pure) metals, in the USA. This means that the last coin can't be considered a troy ounce unless it is something other than bronze (because bronze is several materials in one). Assuming it is actually made out of copper (the closest colored item to bronze, that is made into rounds) it is worth about $0.27. Not being able to test these rounds, or see them in person, I have no way of knowing their actual material content. It is possible that they have used the term "troy" when the material is not, in fact, pure bullion. Control of these terms has tightened considerably over the years, because the value of precious metals has risen so much. Ha, so basically, I told you nothing. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Boo Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 ... Ha, so basically, I told you nothing. :) Don't feel bad. I make my living essentially doing that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losnickes Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Don't feel bad. I make my living essentially doing that. How does one get a job like yours? That sounds fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Boo Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 How does one get a job like yours? That sounds fantastic. Incriminating photos help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skajerk Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Incriminating photos help. You mean like this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Boo Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 You mean like this? Pretty much, especially since I had just signed a petition banning that sort of thing in public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peel Paint Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) I have no knowledge or memory of these Jim Jones commemoratives, so I can't help you solve this puzzle, but before you get ecstatic about the valuation provided by the expert, understand that the $1668 valuation assumes that the gold round is solid gold, and it may very well not be. It was common for private mints pressing issues like this to make gold commemmoratives out of gold-plated silver or possibly another metal, in which case, the melt-down value on the gold one would be closer to the silver one than the gold one in reality. This would have been disclosed, I'm sure, at the time of purchase, but those memories may be lost. If you have a record of the original price of the set, that would give you a clue. Unless it was several hundred dollars more than the melt-down value at the time, it's not likely solid gold. I hope I'm wrong. Edited April 1, 2012 by Peel Paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPendergrass Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I have no knowledge or memory of these Jim Jones commemoratives, so I can't help you solve this puzzle, but before you get ecstatic about the valuation provided by the expert, understand that he is assuming that the gold round is solid gold, and it may very well not be. It was common for private mints pressing issues like this to make gold commemmoratives out of gold-plated silver or possibly another metal, in which case, the melt-down value on the gold one would be closer to the silver one than the gold one in reality. This would have been disclosed, I'm sure, at the time of purchase, but those memories may be lost. If you have a record of the original price of the set, that would give you a clue. Unless it was several hundred dollars more than the melt-down value at the time, it's not likely solid gold. I hope I'm wrong. ? Not being able to test these rounds, or see them in person, I have no way of knowing their actual material content. It is possible that they have used the term "troy" when the material is not, in fact, pure bullion. Control of these terms has tightened considerably over the years, because the value of precious metals has risen so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peel Paint Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) ? I realize you were not saying that you think his piece is solid gold. I'm just cautioning the OP more directly that often these pieces that may appear to be gold are not solid gold, and if this one isn't, its current meltdown value is minimal. I'll edit my post to remove the reference to your assumption. What I was trying to say was that that $1668 price assumes solid gold, which I know you understood in your post. Edited April 1, 2012 by Peel Paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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