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I was just reading through an edition of Drum Corps World from September of 1957 and I was struck by comments of two different writers...

One correspondent indicated that "24,000 fans jammed the stadium at the Barnum Festival." When's the last time you or I appeared before 24,000 fans?

The other comment was even better.... "I had a chance to attend the Barnum Festival. This was a great contest except nothing could be seen from the $1.00 seats. As for paying $3.00, I think it is ridiculous."

Remember these numbers when you order your tickets for DCA weekend....

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Would you pay TWO bucks for a rather major show?

1969_vfw_nationals_ticket.jpg

and Ken as you above all others so well know... that may have been one of the greatest drum corps shows of all time...

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Would you pay TWO bucks for a rather major show?

1969_vfw_nationals_ticket.jpg

Ken, And just think what we saw at the prelims... worthy.gif

(in '69 I marched with BAC and Donna (my wife) was marching with the Majestic Knights!)

1969 VFW - Nationals- Prelims, Philadelphia, PA

DIVISION 1

1 Cavaliers - IL ------------ ------ 91.200

2 Kilties - WI ------------ -------- 90.400

3 Troopers - WY ------------ ------- 89.550

4 Blsd Sac. Golden Knights - NJ --- 87.750

5 Boston Crusaders - MA ----------- 87.350

6 Des Plaines Vanguard - IL ------- 86.400

7 Kingsmen - CA ------------ ------- 85.900

8 Blue Rock - DE/NJ ------------ --- 85.350

9 Blue Stars - WI ------------ ----- 85.250

10 St. Joe's of Batavia - NY ------ 84.900

11 Garfield Cadets - NJ ----------- 84.450

12 Argonne Rebels - KA ------------ 84.600

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

13 Santa Clara Vanguard - CA ------ 84.050

14 Twin City Explorer Scouts - MN - 83.950

15 27th Lancers - MA ------------ -- 83.800

16 Madison Scouts - WI ------------ 82.550

16 Racine Scouts - WI ------------ - 82.550

18 Nisei Ambassadors - IL --------- 82.200

19 Shoreliners - CT ------------ --- 81.850

20 OLPH Ridgemen - NY ------------ - 81.150

21 Norwood Park Imperials - IL ---- 80.700

22 Black Knights - IL ------------ - 80.150

23 Marion Glory Cadets - OH ------- 79.500

24 Beverly Cardinals - MA --------- 78.500

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

25 CMCC Warriors - NY ------------ - 78.300

26 Audubon Bon Bons - NJ ---------- 76.650

26 Spectacle City Mariners - WI --- 76.650

28 St. Mathias Cadets - WI -------- 75.100

29 Seattle Shamrocks - WA -------- 74.450

30 Queensmen - WI ------------ ----- 73.600

31 Page Park Cadets - NY ---------- 73.400

31 VIP's Wash,DC ------------ ----- 73.400

33 Carter Cadets - NY ------------ - 73.350

34 Stardusters - LA ------------ --- 73.250

35 Majestic Knights - MA ---------- 73.150

36 Wynn Center Toppers - NY ------- 73.100

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

37 ND-ettes - CT ------------ ------ 72.950

38 Seattle Imperials - WA --------- 71.200

39 Norwood Debonaires - MA -------- 70.800

40 Royaleers - NJ ------------ ----- 69.850

41 Sacred Heart Crusaders - NJ ---- 69.450

42 Fitchburg Kingsmen - MA -------- 69.400

43 Polish Falcon Cadets - NJ ------ 69.100

44 Blue Angels - MA ------------ --- 68.250

45 Joanettes - MA ------------ ----- 66.850

46 Memorial Lancers - MO ---------- 66.800

47 Guardsmen - IL ------------ ----- 66.750

48 Bracken Cavaliers - PA --------- 65.500

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

49 Chessmen - PA ------------ ------ 63.800

50 White Tornadoes - IL ----------- 63.750

51 Eau Claire Boys - WI ----------- 63.050

52 Nee-Hi's - IA ------------ ------ 62.250

53 Monarchs - MA ------------ ------ 61.750

54 Southern Tier Grenadiers - NY -- 60.850

55 PAL Cadets - PA ------------ ---- 60.100

56 Crusaders - WI ------------ ----- 59.600

57 Patriots - IL ------------ ------ 58.950

58 Black Watch - NJ ------------ --- 58.500

59 Belles of St. Mary's - NJ ------ 56.850

60 Long Island Kingsmen - NY ------ 53.600

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

61 Socialites - MA ------------ ---- 51.650

62 Riversiders - NY ------------ --- 51.000

63 Holy Family Defenders - MA ----- 47.500

(So because there were two ties. There were 65 CORPS!!!!!!!)

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I was just reading through an edition of Drum Corps World from September of 1957 and I was struck by comments of two different writers...

One correspondent indicated that "24,000 fans jammed the stadium at the Barnum Festival." When's the last time you or I appeared before 24,000 fans?

The other comment was even better.... "I had a chance to attend the Barnum Festival. This was a great contest except nothing could be seen from the $1.00 seats. As for paying $3.00, I think it is ridiculous."

Remember these numbers when you order your tickets for DCA weekend....

was it a different stadium in57? kennedy stadium which the barnum festival has been there many many years seats 12000.....both sides I believe

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Ken, And just think what we saw at the prelims... worthy.gif

(in '69 I marched with BAC and Donna (my wife) was marching with the Majestic Knights!)

1969 VFW - Nationals- Prelims, Philadelphia, PA

DIVISION 1

1 Cavaliers - IL ------------ ------ 91.200

2 Kilties - WI ------------ -------- 90.400

3 Troopers - WY ------------ ------- 89.550

4 Blsd Sac. Golden Knights - NJ --- 87.750

5 Boston Crusaders - MA ----------- 87.350

6 Des Plaines Vanguard - IL ------- 86.400

7 Kingsmen - CA ------------ ------- 85.900

8 Blue Rock - DE/NJ ------------ --- 85.350

9 Blue Stars - WI ------------ ----- 85.250

10 St. Joe's of Batavia - NY ------ 84.900

11 Garfield Cadets - NJ ----------- 84.450

12 Argonne Rebels - KA ------------ 84.600

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

13 Santa Clara Vanguard - CA ------ 84.050

14 Twin City Explorer Scouts - MN - 83.950

15 27th Lancers - MA ------------ -- 83.800

16 Madison Scouts - WI ------------ 82.550

16 Racine Scouts - WI ------------ - 82.550

18 Nisei Ambassadors - IL --------- 82.200

19 Shoreliners - CT ------------ --- 81.850

20 OLPH Ridgemen - NY ------------ - 81.150

21 Norwood Park Imperials - IL ---- 80.700

22 Black Knights - IL ------------ - 80.150

23 Marion Glory Cadets - OH ------- 79.500

24 Beverly Cardinals - MA --------- 78.500

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

25 CMCC Warriors - NY ------------ - 78.300

26 Audubon Bon Bons - NJ ---------- 76.650

26 Spectacle City Mariners - WI --- 76.650

28 St. Mathias Cadets - WI -------- 75.100

29 Seattle Shamrocks - WA -------- 74.450

30 Queensmen - WI ------------ ----- 73.600

31 Page Park Cadets - NY ---------- 73.400

31 VIP's Wash,DC ------------ ----- 73.400

33 Carter Cadets - NY ------------ - 73.350

34 Stardusters - LA ------------ --- 73.250

35 Majestic Knights - MA ---------- 73.150

36 Wynn Center Toppers - NY ------- 73.100

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

37 ND-ettes - CT ------------ ------ 72.950

38 Seattle Imperials - WA --------- 71.200

39 Norwood Debonaires - MA -------- 70.800

40 Royaleers - NJ ------------ ----- 69.850

41 Sacred Heart Crusaders - NJ ---- 69.450

42 Fitchburg Kingsmen - MA -------- 69.400

43 Polish Falcon Cadets - NJ ------ 69.100

44 Blue Angels - MA ------------ --- 68.250

45 Joanettes - MA ------------ ----- 66.850

46 Memorial Lancers - MO ---------- 66.800

47 Guardsmen - IL ------------ ----- 66.750

48 Bracken Cavaliers - PA --------- 65.500

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

49 Chessmen - PA ------------ ------ 63.800

50 White Tornadoes - IL ----------- 63.750

51 Eau Claire Boys - WI ----------- 63.050

52 Nee-Hi's - IA ------------ ------ 62.250

53 Monarchs - MA ------------ ------ 61.750

54 Southern Tier Grenadiers - NY -- 60.850

55 PAL Cadets - PA ------------ ---- 60.100

56 Crusaders - WI ------------ ----- 59.600

57 Patriots - IL ------------ ------ 58.950

58 Black Watch - NJ ------------ --- 58.500

59 Belles of St. Mary's - NJ ------ 56.850

60 Long Island Kingsmen - NY ------ 53.600

------------ --------- --------- --------- ----

61 Socialites - MA ------------ ---- 51.650

62 Riversiders - NY ------------ --- 51.000

63 Holy Family Defenders - MA ----- 47.500

(So because there were two ties. There were 65 CORPS!!!!!!!)

Holy Smokes! Wait a minute, this was the prelims lineup for a Wed. Night contest? When did they have the prelims? Over the weekend? 65 corps had to take 2 days of competitions. And 12 corps at a 7pm finals, must've been playing til after midnite. How depressing to come in 65th place.

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Prelims then were shortened versions of the shows. I believe time limits were 7 to 8:30 minutes or something like that. Still it must have been long days. I was only there for about 15 minute on the field and then in the back stands with the other non-finalists for the finals competition.

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Would you pay TWO bucks for a rather major show?

1969_vfw_nationals_ticket.jpg

... and I was there! ... drove to Philly from CT around noon ... bought tickets at the gate ... general seating ... walked into the stadium around 5:00 ... sat just to the left of the 50 around 1/2 way up ... huge stadium ... sat 102,000

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Good memories Ken!

:-)

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And you can tell Fran Haring for me that the Sacred Heart Crusaders got hosed that day, as did St. Mary's Majestic Kights (that's for Donna).

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I was there after just getting out of the Army. One of the thing that most impressed me was that there was actually a corps there from California, Santa Clara. Who would have thought, a corps not from the northeast, or the Chicago area!

They could never be any good...............

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