chaos001 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 probably why bluecoats are always doing shows about themselves, finding themselves or some bs like that ... ick. Fear Joy Sadness Alone Blah 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cop Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 What do you think of Myron Rosander to Madison? There are great names in play, And Myron "the great" is not one of them.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd&10 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Zingali? Brubaker? Brazale? There are great names in play, And Myron "the great" is not one of them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbones7480 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Bones, please don't mess with your brass staff. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumcorpsdrummerman2012 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) On the other side of that, who's had the greatest success? Corps with stable, consistent, and EFFECTIVE staffs...BD and Cadets, primarily. When you have creative and administrative staff that's been at the corps since long before any of the current members were leacherous gleams in their daddy's eyes (Downey, Gibbs, ScoJo) and they long ago learned how to effectively work together, that says a great deal....the revolving door looking for that perfect staffer and them only giving them a year to get the job done doesn't work. Careful, I debated that issue on the front side of this thread and nearly got burned at the stake for it. But, you could not be more correct. All this shuffling around and giving staff members and teams only 2 or so years to get things right or you are out (only to get hired somewhere else and go through that same cycle at another corps two years later) is counterproductive. Note to all designers and instructors: Unless you work for the Blue Devils and I suppose also the Cadets, don't get too attached and sentimental about where you are. You won't stay long (and it's too bad). Edited September 17, 2012 by drumcorpsdrummerman2012 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumcorpsdrummerman2012 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 If I could give 20 greenies...I'd give it to this post! In many ways, DC design teams are a marriage...a partnership. A slog through opinions and personality that survives if you give it time and acceptance that all can contribute. Talking about new staff additions is always fun to gab about here on DCP and certainly can give a corps a bounce in alumni opinion and support, but success is build on stability and how the design team works in the long haul. Every now and then one addition makes an immediate difference (Paul Rennick) but he was no stranger to the team already in place at SCV, so that almost doesn't count. Yup! You are absolutely right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Note to all designers and instructors: Unless you work for the Blue Devils and I suppose also the Cadets, don't get too attached and sentimental about where you are. You won't stay long (and it's too bad). True enough. And message to staff members in non top World Class 8 Corps: don't get too attached and sentimental with your Corps marchers you are teaching the fundamentals of DCI Corps and about where they are. Many won't stay long ( and its too bad ). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumcorpsfever Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) You forgot BAD##S!!! - and, oh... afraid! general_tsos_chicken2, on 15 September 2012 - 02:31 PM, said: probably why bluecoats are always doing shows about themselves, finding themselves or some bs like that ... ick Fear Joy Sadness Alone Blah Edited September 17, 2012 by drumcorpsfever 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaredude08 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Hear, hear. In summary, I think its a great thing that Gray is doing less of the creative decision making and some new folks will get the opportunity to actually take the corps places without being second-guessed. There was some amazing talent that was wasted this year on a boring and predictable overall design concept. Please, whatever you do, don't lay blame at the feet of the horns and drums--they got it done. I won't say Gray is arrogant, ineffective, or uncooperative, but I would add that the number of people who have left the corps (even mid-season) since he arrived speaks volumes about staff unhappiness and self-worth. Seriously, have you ever had to endure one of his motivational or philosophical conversations? It seems as though the most dangerous place in the world is that space between Michael Gray and a microphone. He loves the sound of his own voice so much that he is drawn to a video camera like others are drawn to oxygen. When scrolling through FanNetwork videos, I no longer watch the official Bluecoats videos for fear of having to endure some long rant on how the Bluecoats' show conveys some nebulous or meaningless mindset. This is so much the case that I know which videos he has scripted, even though his voice may be absent from the video--others are doing the jibber jabbering for him. I definitely noticed his penchant for mindless drivel after listening to his second installment on The Marching Roundtable. I think he means well, but he's caught up in the business of being an artist with its usual motto of "everything must be meaningful and deep" nonsense. Maybe I'm just jaded after studying and taking a billion art and philosophy classes that anytime I hear anything that resembles a search for the metaphysical, I roll my eyes. probably why bluecoats are always doing shows about themselves, finding themselves or some bs like that ... ick. I always thought that stuff, but wasn't sure if I was just biased or something... glad someone agrees. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drill Designer Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Has anyone heard what is happening at Pioneer? Are they making changes??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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