Northern Thunder Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) Wow, Brian! That sounds like 25 (junior) shows per week. I was around then, but could only do two shows per week myself! And Fred, I was actually UNDERestimating. Just for the fun of it I counted up how many contests were won by the top 70 winningest junior corps in 1972, and just those corps won over 320 contests that season. Edited August 7, 2013 by Northern Thunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Windish Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Brian, if you say it . . . I believe it! Thanks for all you do, and have done. I've been reading you for years. Good stuff, for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Thunder Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Brian, if you say it . . . I believe it! Thanks for all you do, and have done. I've been reading you for years. Good stuff, for sure! Thanks for the kind words, Fred. It's nice to know somebody out there is reading that stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranintothedoor Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 No, it's impossible. Impossible, you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shostahoosier Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Still would require somewhere around 8 shows happening every night of the season, including during the week. As much as I know there used to be more corps, I don't think there were that drastically many more shows than there are now. Quick stats: DCI 2013- 103 shows DCI 1973: 113 shows. So pretty close with 40 years of time and loss of corps Reference:From the press box.com 1. 1973 was only the second year of DCI so it is entirely possible that the number of DCI shows increased after that season. 2. Weren't there other circuits around back then besides DCI? Were those included in your numbers? Maybe 5X was a large estimation but I could see 2X or 3X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsubone Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 1. 1973 was only the second year of DCI so it is entirely possible that the number of DCI shows increased after that season. 2. Weren't there other circuits around back then besides DCI? Were those included in your numbers? Maybe 5X was a large estimation but I could see 2X or 3X. I just used what I could find online, according to Northern Thunder though, there were a lot more shows. So yeah, probably 2 to 3x as many shows is entirely possible. The season did also seem to run quite a bit longer. I saw shows from May to September, instead of just June to August like now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Still would require somewhere around 8 shows happening every night of the season, including during the week. As much as I know there used to be more corps, I don't think there were that drastically many more shows than there are now. Quick stats: DCI 2013- 103 shows DCI 1973: 113 shows. So pretty close with 40 years of time and loss of corps Reference:From the press box.com This doesn't take into account all the local circuit shows. DCI wasn't the only game in town back then. We had a dozen or more CDCA and ODCA shows in my Canadian province alone every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Thunder Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I just used what I could find online, according to Northern Thunder though, there were a lot more shows. So yeah, probably 2 to 3x as many shows is entirely possible. The season did also seem to run quite a bit longer. I saw shows from May to September, instead of just June to August like now I was curious, so I counted how many junior contests I have in my files for 1972. I have 338. (There were over 50 before June 15!) And I don't have a complete tally (nobody does) so that total is understated. It just shows how big drum corps was at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamMan Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) I was curious, so I counted how many junior contests I have in my files for 1972. I have 338. (There were over 50 before June 15!) And I don't have a complete tally (nobody does) so that total is understated. It just shows how big drum corps was at the time. Brian, Thanks for doing the leg work that I didn't have time to do. Youngsters today have no idea how big & widespread Drum Corp was in the 60's 70's & 80's. Illinois had something like 30 Drum & Bugle Corps, same with NJ & many other states. On the 4th of July there were 25+ shows across the country. Drum Corps were full of local kids then who went to school together, etc... Unfortunately, that is gone from today's corps. Today's model isn't sustainable. This activity must get back to its local roots & recruit local kids, not music majors. Edited August 7, 2013 by FlamMan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstar82 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) Still would require somewhere around 8 shows happening every night of the season, including during the week. As much as I know there used to be more corps, I don't think there were that drastically many more shows than there are now. Quick stats: DCI 2013- 103 shows DCI 1973: 113 shows. So pretty close with 40 years of time and loss of corps Reference:From the press box.com The press box.com is not close to being a complete listing of show information. I am aware of hundreds of shows that are not listed on their site. In as much as it is a great website, I would wager the site is missing more shows than that are actually listed. One example: Press box website has scores for three drum corps shows on July 9th, 1983. Ypsilanti DCI North show, Cody Wy DC/NW show and Sacramento, a PDCA show. But on that date there were 14 drum corps shows in North America. The three mentioned above and shows in Gloversville NY Hanover PA Pittsburgh PA Fort Erie Ont East Haven CT Central Islip NY Schaumburg IL Lindsay Ont Olympia WA St-George de Beauce Que Laval Que and one in East London England a DCUK show DCI corps competed in all of these regional circuits as well as DCI sponsored shows and DCI only sponsored 4-5 regional shows, championship week and a few other biggies the entire season, DATR is one that comes to mind. The Toledo Key to the Sea show had so many corps, they had two shows of Prelims and two shows of Finals over two days involving 45 corps. And looking at that list , I only see three of that year's top twelve in the show as most likely everybody else was preparing for the US Open, another gigantic show. Edited August 7, 2013 by bstar82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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