George Dixon Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 But leadership, vision etc. are essentially political virtues. It is not truly possible to do full honor to the various presidents without taking into account their politics, decisions, debates and so on. This is why patriotic shows tend to rankle people, as such a show tries to present a bright shiny view of our history while ignoring the difficult realities of really running a country. it's really not a political show at all, but I guess some folks can't get past "oh god that's a Obama saying" etc... which in my view is extremely myopic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackroberts Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 But leadership, vision etc. are essentially political virtues. It is not truly possible to do full honor to the various presidents without taking into account their politics, decisions, debates and so on. This is why patriotic shows tend to rankle people, as such a show tries to present a bright shiny view of our history while ignoring the difficult realities of really running a country. But a drum corps show that included those difficulties wouldn't be nearly as effective and wouldn't tie into the overall vision and direction this show is portraying, so... it's not political. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfrontz Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Except this show is in NO WAY political It's purposefully not political It's about leadership, vision, promise & America. Not politics. Yes, I see what you mean, but I think it opens the door to 'sound' political when you quote a sitting President, especially his major campaign theme. I wish they would have stuck with dead Presidents. Some people will be thrilled, some will not. I still think it's a very good show, but not as much as I did earlier in the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Yes, I see what you mean, but I think it opens the door to 'sound' political when you quote a sitting President, especially his major campaign theme. I wish they would have stuck with dead Presidents. Some people will be thrilled, some will not. I still think it's a very good show, but not as much as I did earlier in the year. I don't disagree with the "dead president" rule of thumb. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 George just popped up in the YouTube comments and asked for the video to be removed. 'RC ... I am usually a pretty nice guy but ... please take this down.' Don't disagree. They have the right to launch it before a live audience It is extremely effective in person!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadet93 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Staying away from politics...... I love the new flag work during Simple Gifts. The double flag tosses are great, very EFFECTIVE, and very rarely seen performed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCHEZman Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 All the new changes (increased tempos, brass impact points and the new ending) will not win over fans who don't like the show but it will add effect to the show which is what Cadets require competitively. A run and gun ending would have been too much of a "tagged on" ending. I also feel the show is uber controlled as it is and needed a more loose, energetic and emotional ending, not more "drill". Artistically, I think its consistent with the design. If you don't like the design, then no changes were going to pull you in. I think the Cadets have been very good with their changes this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortAndFast Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Except this show is in NO WAY political It's purposefully not political It's about leadership, vision, promise & America. Not politics. If you choose to use recordings of politicians making political speeches as the centerpiece of your marching band show, people are going to rightly feel your show is about politics (or at least politicians). If they wanted it to be about "vision, promise & America", they'd just let Copland's music speak for itself. It's far more eloquent than any elected official. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 All the new changes (increased tempos, brass impact points and the new ending) will not win over fans who don't like the show but it will add effect to the show which is what Cadets require competitively. A run and gun ending would have been too much of a "tagged on" ending. I also feel the show is uber controlled as it is and needed a more loose, energetic and emotional ending, not more "drill". Artistically, I think its consistent with the design. If you don't like the design, then no changes were going to pull you in. I think the Cadets have been very good with their changes this season. correct!!! haters will hate lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 If you choose to use recordings of politicians making political speeches as the centerpiece of your marching band show, people are going to rightly feel your show is about politics (or at least politicians). If they wanted it to be about "vision, promise & America", they'd just let Copland's music speak for itself. It's far more eloquent than any elected official. I'm not sure where the point is lost on you. It doesn't take a "political stance" of any sort. Therefore it's not about "politics" - it is about leadership, vision and all the things this country has been through. PERIOD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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