c.l. Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 What I do appreciate from a judging standpoint, is the variety of styles being rewarded. I lump BD, Crown and Bluecoats in the more modern style and Cadets and SCV in the more traditional style.. On the contrary, I find Crown to be one of the more traditional style shows this year and SCV more modern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutchtow Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 On the contrary, I find Crown to be one of the more traditional style shows this year and SCV more modern. SCV is a bit more of a mix. They use electronics to quite the effect, but they still have traditional drill (although it is high velocity and tight intervals) and a more traditional approach to the music. Meanwhile, BD is nearly all staged drill, and Bluecoats are using a very different approach to the music. SCV is kinda sitting in the middle of modern and traditional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.E. Brigand Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 The conclusion that I came to (my opinion of course) is that BD are always coming out with something new, every year they are fresh and push the activity a few more inches (or yards) forward. How do you know they're pushing it forward rather than backward or sideways? That's not an attack on BD, just a reminder that we tend to be too quick to refer to any change as progress when it may not be. Some roads are dead ends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 On the contrary, I find Crown to be one of the more traditional style shows this year and SCV more modern. I think SCV has more drill and Crown in the past two seasons has used more staging. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 HERE $#$^KING HERE!!!!Can we say ^^^^ on DCP?😱😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 innovation rankings: (current top 5 plus BK which has to be included in discussions of the past couple years) this year - Bluecoats - a new sound! SCV/Cadets - lush, underlying electronic "soundtracks" run throughout. Cadets employ organic & theatrical blocking, SCV cutting edge guard design. BD - taking indoor elements (hanging percussionist, ladder rifle work etc) to the field for the first time Blueknights - very creative staging, arrangement & drill design. Modern balletic guard design Crown - not too much "innovation" this year - a combination of 92/93 Star with 96 Regiment last year - Bluecoats Blueknights BD Cadets Crown SCV last ten years - BD - blocking vs. drill Cavaliers - visual driven design, modern symphonic literature & original compositions - guard integration, contemporary American music Crown - the modern drum corps "mash up" - ballad and show design Cadets - narration, electronics/amplification, front ensemble integration and arrangement last thirty years - Cadets - huge impact on visual design with organic/asymmetric drill, symphonic production writing, theatrical blocking/staging, Bb instrumention, electronics, voice & modern guard approach, modern rehearsal methodology SCV - similar to Cadets - a massive impact on percussive writing, symphonic arrangement, modern drill design, theatrical presentations BD - theatrical blocking/staging & modern guard design, very on trend with both the commercial arts world and the indoor guard/percussion design worlds Star/Crown - movement, horn program basics program A lot of folks seem to overlook the truly original for the flashy. Take the pit work during Cadets ballad - going from wood voices to metal voices as the pit members migrate down the line. Or their electronics program. Or the staging and tempo elements during Waltz. Sometimes a program which seems "traditional" on the service is actually quite a cutting edge design: electronics: behind the scenes - a modern drum corps electronics team https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9ze_yeWeN8 ballad staging: Cadets 2015 https://youtu.be/bXsvcFD8S6s sound design: Bluecoats 2014 closer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3ycWetRpy0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 innovation rankings: (current top 5 plus BK which has to be included in discussions of the past couple years) this year - Bluecoats - a new sound! SCV/Cadets - lush, underlying electronic "soundtracks" run throughout. Cadets employ organic & theatrical blocking, SCV cutting edge guard design. BD - taking indoor elements (hanging percussionist, ladder rifle work etc) to the field for the first time Blueknights - very creative staging, arrangement & drill design. Modern balletic guard design Crown - not too much "innovation" this year - a combination of 92/93 Star with 96 Regiment last year - Bluecoats Blueknights BD Cadets Crown SCV last ten years - BD - blocking vs. drill Cavaliers - visual driven design, modern symphonic literature & original compositions - guard integration, contemporary American music Crown - the modern drum corps "mash up" - ballad and show design Cadets - narration, electronics/amplification, front ensemble integration and arrangement last thirty years - Cadets - huge impact on visual design with organic/asymmetric drill, symphonic production writing, theatrical blocking/staging, Bb instrumention, electronics, voice & modern guard approach, modern rehearsal methodology SCV - similar to Cadets - a massive impact on percussive writing, symphonic arrangement, modern drill design, theatrical presentations BD - theatrical blocking/staging & modern guard design, very on trend with both the commercial arts world and the indoor guard/percussion design worlds Star/Crown - movement, horn program basics program A lot of folks seem to overlook the truly original for the flashy. Take the pit work during Cadets ballad - going from wood voices to metal voices as the pit members migrate down the line. Or their electronics program. Or the staging and tempo elements during Waltz. Sometimes a program which seems "traditional" on the service is actually quite a cutting edge design: electronics: behind the scenes - a modern drum corps electronics team https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9ze_yeWeN8 ballad staging: Cadets 2015 https://youtu.be/bXsvcFD8S6s sound design: Bluecoats 2014 closer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3ycWetRpy0 lulz. how did i know you'd try to label "run-and-gun yet again" as innovative? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 lulz. how did i know you'd try to label "run-and-gun yet again" as innovative? I didn't label "run and gun yet again" as innovative. But I guess you didn't actually read my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I didn't label "run and gun yet again" as innovative. But I guess you didn't actually read my post. that was a tongue-in-cheek reference to the 2015 cadets. but.... well... nvm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 that was a tongue-in-cheek reference to the 2015 cadets. but.... well... nvm. Thanks for adding so much to this conversation. I understand you being cranky though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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