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Should record scores be ranked numerically or by both corps and score?  

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  1. 1. Which of the following is the correct listing of "Top DCI SCORES of All Time" (not "Top-Scoring DCI Corps Performances of All Time")?

    • 1. 99.65 (2014 Blue Devils); 2t. 99.15 (2002 Cavaliers & 2005 Cadets); 4t. 99.05 ((2002 Cavaliers at Semis, 2009 Blue Devils)
    • 1. 99.65 (2014 Blue Devils); 2. 99.15 (2002 Cavaliers & 2005 Cadets); 3. 99.05 (2002 Cavaliers at Semis, 2009 Blue Devils)
    • Either is equally valid.
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    • Both are valid, but the normal interpretation is #1, because when two corps are assigned the same number, that represents two different "scores".
    • Both are valid, but the normal interpretation is #2, because a "score" is just the number itself, not the assignment of that number to a particular performance.


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I published the following tweets on Finals day:

https://twitter.com/CorpsScores/status/498092291064868864

Top 4 scores of all time are:

99.15 (05 Cadets & 02 Cavs)

99.05 (02 Cavs (semis) & 09 BD)

98.9 (10 BD)

98.8 (89 SCV & 03 BD)

And then followed it up with

https://twitter.com/CorpsScores/status/498101149925642241

I guess I should have mentioned that BD's score last night of 98.95 is both the highest Semis score ever (incorrect! 2002 Cavs was higher) and the third highest score ever.

And I was taken to task by user @Brilow7

https://twitter.com/BriLow7/status/498293699017584640

@CorpsScores I have to correct - BD's score last night was the FIFTH highest score ever, since four higher scores have been given.

So here's my question: clearly when ranking corps to determine all-time placements, the corps and the score both matter, so the current top of the leaderboard looks like this:

Top-Scoring DCI Corps Performances of All Time:
1. 2014 Blue Devils, 99.65
2t. 2005 Cadets and 2002 Cavaliers, 99.15
4t. 2002 Cavaliers at semis, 2009 Blue Devils, 99.05

But when it comes to ranking the top scores of all time, is a score considered to be just the number? or if two corps get assigned the same number, should that be considered two scores?

In other words, which of these is more valid:

Top DCI Scores of All Time:
1. 99.65 - 2014 Blue Devils
2. 99.15 - 2002 Cavaliers & 2005 Cadets
3. 99.05 - 2002 Cavaliers (semis) & 2009 Blue Devils

Or should it be:

Top DCI Scores of All Time:
1. 99.65 - 2014 Blue Devils
2t. 99.15 - 2002 Cavaliers & 2005 Cadets
4t. 99.05 - 2002 Cavaliers (semis) & 2009 Blue Devils

Obviously, I see both sides, but I see the former as more valid. To me, the score is the number itself, and although 09 BD is the "4th highest scoring corps performance ever", their score of 99.05 is the "3rd highest score ever achieved".

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I prefer the first way of thinking. 99.15 was awarded twice. A 99.15 A and B you could say. These are different scores. Different subcaption scores, different years, different shows.

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If the interpretation is that "a score is both a number and its context", so that equal scores by different people/groups are treated as different scores, then

Q: "What are the top 3 scores ever scored in a DCI contest?"

A: "99.65 (2014 BD), 99.15 (2002 Cavs), and 99.15 (2005 Cadets)".

Q: "What are the top 2 scores ever scored in a DCI contest?"

A: That question has no answer, because there is no single second-highest score.

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Q: "What are the top 2 scores ever scored in a DCI contest?"

A: That question has no answer, because there is no single second-highest score.

Technically, if you ask what are the top 2 scores ever scored in a DCI contest....they are 99.65 & 99.15.

Now if you asked, what are the top two scoring corps in any DCI contest .... you couldn't answer that!

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Technically, if you ask what are the top 2 scores ever scored in a DCI contest....they are 99.65 & 99.15.

Now if you asked, what are the top two scoring corps in any DCI contest .... you couldn't answer that!

I agree with you. The scores are just the numbers.

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