xandandl Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 as well I know, having been on tours since the beginning of DCI and part of helping to found WGI too. in this, size doesn't matter, it's the end product which will count. Guard staffs and Percussion staffs are much like the old immigrants who used to be told by their families and friends, Write if you find work....and they would all follow. Guard staffs particularly accumulate everyone they have ever met at WGI and then get dumped big time when the results don't match and the budgets (salary, travel, fabric, more travel, more fabric) go way out of line. Percussion folks are akin, but they get to do endorsements. For my money it is the brass and visual staffs who have the largest faculty-student loads, especially visual. But then again many feel the brass folks are better educators and the students better too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUARDLING Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) as well I know, having been on tours since the beginning of DCI and part of helping to found WGI too. in this, size doesn't matter, it's the end product which will count. Guard staffs and Percussion staffs are much like the old immigrants who used to be told by their families and friends, Write if you find work....and they would all follow. Guard staffs particularly accumulate everyone they have ever met at WGI and then get dumped big time when the results don't match and the budgets (salary, travel, fabric, more travel, more fabric) go way out of line. Percussion folks are akin, but they get to do endorsements. For my money it is the brass and visual staffs who have the largest faculty-student loads, especially visual. But then again many feel the brass folks are better educators and the students better too. Guard staffs have also become very specialized . BITD we were a staff of maybe 1 or 2 and good at it or not we had to learn EVERYTHING. This IMO is a reason you still see some of us and some big names in the activity still around. Today most new staff will just do rifle, or flag or sabre or dance or stretches or clean all different things etc etc etc. BITD you did it all ! It's also another reason when some of these bands hire a young new person to head their guard program , who marched in some big top 5 corps they get all excited only to find out it didn't work in many cases , often a diaster. It didnt work because many bands cant hire 20 people to do 1 section and expect the new hire to be able to do it all. oops.........back to Madison Edited October 17, 2014 by GUARDLING 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Guard staffs have also become very specialized . BITD we were a staff of maybe 1 or 2 and good at it or not we had to learn EVERYTHING. This IMO is a reason you still see some of us and some big names in the activity still around. Today most new staff will just do rifle, or flag or sabre or dance or stretches or clean all different things etc etc etc. BITD you did it all ! It's also another reason when some of these bands hire a young new person to head their guard program , who marched in some big top 5 corps they get all excited only to find out it didn't work in many cases , often a diaster. It didnt work because many bands cant hire 20 people to do 1 section and expect the new hire to be able to do it all. oops.........back to Madison well not to mention that being a performer -- even a very good performer -- has little to do with being a great teacher. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamMan Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Color GuardDavid Veda, Caption Supervisor Susan Hanggi, Caption Head Ian Lewis, Assistant Caption Head Kelsey Gleason, Instructor KC Perkins, Instructor Carrie Short, Instructor Thomas Thawley, Instructor Brian Winn, Instructor Brandt Wright, Instructor Robbie Billings, Choreographer Adam Dalton, Choreographer Michael James, Choreographer Damon Padilla, Choreographer CRAZY GOOD NEWSWith Chad Duggan on Visual too How in the world can a drum corps afford to pay 13 color guard instructors? Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msesq Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 How in the world can a drum corps afford to pay 13 color guard instructors? Wow. Depends on how much you're paying them, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msesq Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 . . . and in anticipation of the inevitable follow-up question . . . Annual MeetingNovember 7, 2014 at 6:00 p.m.Dream Lanes Bowling Center 13 Atlas Court Madison, WI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 are you saying between the lines that some of them aren't worth the money? or is it a package deal, if I get Joe Flagg, then I have to get Minnie Rifle and Sammy Sabre too, plus Twirly Girley for dance, and Emote E. Conn for drama???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 So that you don't think I'm anti-Madison, may I insert this commercial for Scouts Honor viewing... https://www.facebook.com/events/510070385795941/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msesq Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) are you saying between the lines that some of them aren't worth the money? or is it a package deal, if I get Joe Flagg, then I have to get Minnie Rifle and Sammy Sabre too, plus Twirly Girley for dance, and Emote E. Conn for drama???? I'm not saying anything "between the lines". It's simple math, really. The numbers below are completely hypothetical, obviously (but sometimes what seems obvious isn't necessarily so in these threads). You could pay Joe Flagg to be on the road with you all summer for $25,000, or you could pay Joe, Minnie, Sammy et al a total of $25,000, and have all of them teach (which is more likely in this activity, given that this isn't a full-time gig for any of them). Either way, you pay $25K. The number of instructors is irrelevant. Edited October 18, 2014 by msesq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 I see your point. My experience is that there are usually one or two who get the bigger money, sometimes peanuts to the rest or just the prestige of putting in their resume, "summer staff for DCI big name drum corps guard." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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