chaos001 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 What? let's just say they went in that direction, but don't actually do it. i don't think it'd be very classy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoln Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 let's just say they went in that direction, but don't actually do it. i don't think it'd be very classy. I don't understand. You say that if they went in a direction but don't do it it won't be classy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xandandl Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) sayeth Corpsband: In an old house in Paris that was covered with vines lived twelve little girls in two straight lines. In two straight lines they broke their bread ... Yup! Two straight lines sez "Rockford Files" to me, oui ou non? John Brazale and crew would certainly beam. Edited December 30, 2014 by xandandl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land_Surfer Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Last thing I'd want is for Phantom to go down the BD path. As much as I love BD's recent direction, let Phantom be Phantom. Playing powerful classical music is what they do best. They don't need to be "artsy" and eccentric to pull off an entertaining and competitive show. But they aren't playing the powerful classical musical arrangements "they do best." They sound like every other corps attempting to perform classical music. Their unique rich, dark, soulful sound is virtually non-existent today. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mello Dude Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 That is what you get when the judging community is trained to judge what they consider "good" by the corps that win. DCI would do well to get a lot more judges and start cycling people through judging music as opposed to the same old same old. This is what you are going to get. Frankly judges need to be sequestered from corps and their staffs as well IMHO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 But they aren't playing the powerful classical musical arrangements "they do best." They sound like every other corps attempting to perform classical music. Their unique rich, dark, soulful sound is virtually non-existent today. Respectfully disagree. They sounded quite amazing this past season. They still sound like Phantom. Not as powerful no, but I attribute much of that to bad arranging. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land_Surfer Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Respectfully disagree. They sounded quite amazing this past season. They still sound like Phantom. Not as powerful no, but I attribute much of that to bad arranging. "...bad arranging." That's my gripe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumManTx Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Respectfully disagree. They sounded quite amazing this past season. They still sound like Phantom. Not as powerful no, but I attribute much of that to bad arranging. I'll agree, I think they sound pretty great these days, but the sparkle that the JD Shaw arrangements added to their musical ability is what is non existent today, not their ability. I don't think Don Hill's a bad arranger, at all I sure as hell couldn't arrange anything, but I just don't think he's been a good fit for Phantom thus far. I enjoyed his work at Glassmen, really enjoyed his 2002 - 2003 Cadets books, and his high school stuff is to die for, he just for some reason hasn't brought that to Phantom, and maybe for reasons we don't know, he can't. All they're lacking to me is that intangible magic that Shaw, and before him Wren brought. I think he's amazing at what he does, just not at Phantom. Come finals the past few year I've enjoyed their shows, just not loved them. Edited December 30, 2014 by DrumManTx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land_Surfer Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I'll agree, I think they sound pretty great these days, but the sparkle that the JD Shaw arrangements added to their musical ability is what is non existent today, not their ability. I don't think Don Hill's a bad arranger, at all I sure as hell couldn't arrange anything, but I just don't think he's been a good fit for Phantom thus far. I enjoyed his work at Glassmen, really enjoyed his 2002 - 2003 Cadets books, and his high school stuff is to die for, he just for some reason hasn't brought that to Phantom, and maybe for reasons we don't know, he can't. All they're lacking to me is that intangible magic that Shaw, and before him Wren brought. I think he's amazing at what he does, just not at Phantom. Come finals the past few year I've enjoyed their shows, just not loved them. Agreed. And, I shouldn't have said "bad" arranging, he's a quality arranger, just not in the style of Wren (and later Shaw), the PR style. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjeffeory Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I'll agree, I think they sound pretty great these days, but the sparkle that the JD Shaw arrangements added to their musical ability is what is non existent today, not their ability. I don't think Don Hill's a bad arranger, at all I sure as hell couldn't arrange anything, but I just don't think he's been a good fit for Phantom thus far. I enjoyed his work at Glassmen, really enjoyed his 2002 - 2003 Cadets books, and his high school stuff is to die for, he just for some reason hasn't brought that to Phantom, and maybe for reasons we don't know, he can't. All they're lacking to me is that intangible magic that Shaw, and before him Wren brought. I think he's amazing at what he does, just not at Phantom. Come finals the past few year I've enjoyed their shows, just not loved them. Absolutely agree. Shaw and Wren were great for Regiment, and it's difficult for Hill to fit in with them. I know Hill is amazing, but I enjoy his marching band work much more than his corps work. Hill knows how to write for woodwinds and brass very well, and I tend to enjoy that more from him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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