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Cadets; Thanks for the Offseason Scoop on Your Show

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HI All,

You know...there is very little that George Hopkins and i agree on...but....his corps approach to releasing information about the Cadets program during the off-season is great. They just about stand alone in that department.

Bravo George and the Cadets!!!

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I agree! They are creating Drum Corps shows. This is not Coca Cola’s secret formula or Anything that Can Jeopardize a War or Endanger Troops’ Lives.

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...and the Cadets staff is smart enough to choose music of late that has minimal copyright and licensing restrictions which seem to be hampering other units.

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HI All,

You know...there is very little that George Hopkins and i agree on...but....his corps approach to releasing information about the Cadets program during the off-season is great. They just about stand alone in that department.

Bravo George and the Cadets!!!

YES!

I know I've said it before, but I 100% appreciate how candid Hop & his design staff are in the off-season when it comes to show design. They really let their fans in on the process more than any other corps by A LOT, even if the process means "we have a great idea & our show next summer is X" only to come back in a few months and say, "we changed our minds, simplified the vision, and instead are totally going in a different direction." Meaning, I appreciate their openness, warts & all (and I still really want to see a Bernstein show that mashes-up On The Waterfront, WSS, and whatever else Cadets' original ideas were for their 75th Anniversary show).

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Most organizations (because most people), not just drum corps, are afraid of showing mistakes, weaknesses, etc. So they don't want to release early clips because (a) they don't want to publicly admit they screwed up if they feel they have to change things later, (b) they don't want to offer an unpolished display that would tarnish their public image and possibly negatively affect recruiting, or simply the buzz of fan-boys everywhere, © they don't want the public to realize they are much farther behind than they should be (i.e. "every other corps is showing clips of their entire show, and all you guys can show by April is your opener? do you even HAVE a show this year?!?"), etc., etc.

Lots of reasons for not broadcasting, and in truth I think most stem from insecurity. But that's only my take because I come down on the side of full and open disclosure - warts and all. They're entitled to their position, though, and since they're the ones in charge, they have to do what they are comfortable with. And we have to live with it.

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Most organizations (because most people), not just drum corps, are afraid of showing mistakes, weaknesses, etc. So they don't want to release early clips because (a) they don't want to publicly admit they screwed up if they feel they have to change things later, (b) they don't want to offer an unpolished display that would tarnish their public image and possibly negatively affect recruiting, or simply the buzz of fan-boys everywhere, © they don't want the public to realize they are much farther behind than they should be (i.e. "every other corps is showing clips of their entire show, and all you guys can show by April is your opener? do you even HAVE a show this year?!?"), etc., etc.

Lots of reasons for not broadcasting, and in truth I think most stem from insecurity. But that's only my take because I come down on the side of full and open disclosure - warts and all. They're entitled to their position, though, and since they're the ones in charge, they have to do what they are comfortable with. And we have to live with it.

it used to be exciting to run to see what a corps was doing bitd , before social media etc etc. but in todays must know society and in an instant that's the world we live in ( the good and bad of that )

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it used to be exciting to run to see what a corps was doing bitd , before social media etc etc. but in todays must know society and in an instant that's the world we live in ( the good and bad of that )

For sure. I remember my excitement in the 90's where I would learn about what corps were doing from friends' camp recordings, and from the DCW article in the spring laying out corps' repertoire. Now we have 24/7 "news cycle" (most of which is white-noise nonsense anyway), social media, etc. and fans are conditioned to want to know everything ASAP. As a fan, I'm generally the same way; as someone who has worked for corps & HS music programs, I 100% understand & respect decisions to not want to release info too early. That's why, again, I applaud Hoppy & Cadets for being forthcoming with their organizations' artistic plans early

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For sure. I remember my excitement in the 90's where I would learn about what corps were doing from friends' camp recordings, and from the DCW article in the spring laying out corps' repertoire. Now we have 24/7 "news cycle" (most of which is white-noise nonsense anyway), social media, etc. and fans are conditioned to want to know everything ASAP. As a fan, I'm generally the same way; as someone who has worked for corps & HS music programs, I 100% understand & respect decisions to not want to release info too early. That's why, again, I applaud Hoppy & Cadets for being forthcoming with their organizations' artistic plans early

i agree totally although for me I hear things and most often don't want to.....loI also think ( and it's happend alot ) Hop or whoever gives some tid bits of the program and critics swarm. Another reason some would rather wait. Pre conceived opinions sometimes don't go away.

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Of course Hopkins is usually akin to "no publicity is bad publicity" and "winter vidz prompt winter sales" (tickets, kitsch, tee shirts, wills.) The staff actually uses some of that negative flack to tune, tweek, and finesse the show, not necessarily to change it but to anticipate judge and audience response.

The second camp of the month begins tonight (Friday) for brass and percussion. Hopefully we will be inflated on Sunday with some Super music and info bowling us over.

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Of course Hopkins is usually akin to "no publicity is bad publicity" and "winter vidz prompt winter sales" (tickets, kitsch, tee shirts, wills.) The staff actually uses some of that negative flack to tune, tweek, and finesse the show, not necessarily to change it but to anticipate judge and audience response.

The second camp of the month begins tonight (Friday) for brass and percussion. Hopefully we will be inflated on Sunday with some Super music and info bowling us over.

I just hope I'm not deflated.

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