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I am surprised that this forum is still up. Was here a week ago and was sure DCP would close it down. I have never seen so many trolls,homers, and haters treat each with such disrespect. Many here think they are experts. Many here seem to be holding a grudge for whatever reason and can only find this forum as a way to vent their anger. Try therapy with a professional for starters. From what I have read, I have the perfect solution. All Phantom has to do is make phd-student-whatever his name is President,King, Ruler, Director. He seems to know all and have all the answers.He is especially good at insulting people who do not agree with him. There are several more people here that seem to have all the answers. I am sure phd will have the corps in 1-3 spots every year and will keep peace in Phantom land by simple banning all those that disagree. Time to either treat each other with respect or find somewhere else to spread your hatred and anger because this does nothing to improve Phantom and only leaves a bitter taste in the mouths of the real Phantom fans who are sick of adults(I assume most are adults) who have nothing better to do than to be critical of one of the greatest corps in DCI history. I am not a Phantom homer. I respect and admire the way they have handled themselves over the years even after hitting bumps in the road as all great corps do. Stop bringing your personal problems and vendettas you have against them to this forum.If you have nothing constructive to say and are just going to continue to spew your hatred then I am sure DCP will be more than happy to make sure you find another site to do it in.

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I am surprised that this forum is still up. Was here a week ago and was sure DCP would close it down. I have never seen so many trolls,homers, and haters treat each with such disrespect. Many here think they are experts. Many here seem to holding a grudge for whatever reason and can only find this forum as a way to vent their anger. Try therapy with a professional for starters.

You were on this thread yesterday posting the same thing. Not a week ago. Also, don't go looking at the Chester tour of champions thread. There are some naughty things being said about Regiment that might give you the vapors.

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I am surprised that this forum is still up. Was here a week ago and was sure DCP would close it down. I have never seen so many trolls,homers, and haters treat each with such disrespect. Many here think they are experts. Many here seem to holding a grudge for whatever reason and can only find this forum as a way to vent their anger. Try therapy with a professional for starters.

Yet another drive-by request to close the thread. Try this, I promise it will work!.... when you look at your screen and see " Phailing Phantom-- How Phar Will They Phall?"....DON'T CLICK ON IT!! Your mouse may float above it.....JUST DON'T PRESS DOWN.....Fixed! Although the IT folks at DCP are very clever.... they haven't quite figured out how to get a specific thread to open up involuntarily....but seeing your clear angst over this thread...they are probably working on it feverishly as we speak! :wacko:

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You were on this thread yesterday posting the same thing. Not a week ago. Also, don't go looking at the Chester tour of champions thread. There are some naughty things being said about Regiment that might give you the vapors.

Constructive comments are different than venting someones hatred and anger. I'm sure you know the difference.

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See what I did there?

Anyway I'll be blunt and I'm sure I'll enrage quite a few people.

I saw Phantom three times in California this season and am watching the live webcast tonight.

Geez. I am not impressed. Performance is OK, design is... Not. Performance isn't good enough to make up for design flaws (or, phlaws).

In my opinion, this trend has been occuring with PR for the last few years. What's the deal? Have they just become a middle of the pack 6-8 place corps?

I could see them as low as 10th.

Go ahead, chew me out. :-)

I have Phantom finishing in 6th place this year:

http://davidalyea.com/dci/2015/

Across the board, scores appear to be 4 points lower this year than previous years. Here is Phantom's scores at 3 weeks and just before that from 2003 to 2015:

year S1 S2 S3 S4 S5 final D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 corps finals rank

2003 86.900 87.85 88.50 87.35 88.050 94.750 -26 -25 -24 -23 -21 Phantom 2003-08-09 4

2004 84.150 84.55 83.90 85.60 87.125 93.575 -28 -27 -26 -24 -21 Phantom 2004-08-07 5

2005 85.425 86.10 87.25 87.15 87.800 96.825 -28 -26 -25 -23 -21 Phantom 2005-08-13 3

2006 86.975 86.85 87.75 87.40 88.000 96.850 -28 -26 -25 -24 -23 Phantom 2006-08-12 2

2007 86.325 86.50 87.35 87.45 87.375 94.850 -29 -28 -24 -23 -21 Phantom 2007-08-11 4

2008 84.350 86.85 87.00 88.20 89.775 98.125 -28 -26 -25 -23 -21 Phantom 2008-08-09 1

2009 81.900 82.35 83.05 84.55 84.250 89.900 -29 -26 -23 -22 -21 Phantom 2009-08-08 9

2010 86.700 87.55 86.20 86.95 86.850 93.150 -26 -25 -23 -22 -21 Phantom 2010-08-14 6

2011 84.900 84.90 85.20 86.15 87.400 95.050 -26 -25 -23 -22 -21 Phantom 2011-08-13 5

2012 84.450 84.85 85.30 85.45 87.750 96.550 -26 -24 -23 -22 -21 Phantom 2012-08-11 3

2013 82.000 81.55 82.45 85.55 85.750 93.250 -28 -27 -26 -22 -21 Phantom 2013-08-10 6

2014 81.850 83.15 84.10 85.05 84.725 91.425 -27 -26 -24 -22 -21 Phantom 2014-08-09 7

2015 77.750 77.70 80.55 80.35 80.975 0.000 -27 -26 -23 -22 -21 Phantom 2015-08-08 0

For comparison, here are the Blue Devils scores for the same time period:

year S1 S2 S3 S4 S5 final D1 D2 D3 D4 D5 corps finals rank

2003 88.300 88.150 89.65 89.85 90.500 98.800 -28 -26 -24 -23 -21 Blue Devils 2003-08-09 1

2004 88.100 88.100 87.80 88.90 89.900 98.525 -28 -27 -25 -24 -22 Blue Devils 2004-08-07 2

2005 86.575 87.350 88.45 88.90 89.775 95.250 -29 -26 -25 -23 -21 Blue Devils 2005-08-13 4

2006 86.875 89.025 89.45 89.70 90.550 96.550 -32 -28 -26 -25 -23 Blue Devils 2006-08-12 3

2007 88.475 89.650 88.15 90.40 91.350 98.000 -28 -27 -26 -23 -21 Blue Devils 2007-08-11 1

2008 87.150 88.400 88.60 89.85 92.375 98.100 -28 -26 -25 -23 -21 Blue Devils 2008-08-09 2

2009 89.300 89.850 90.70 91.70 91.400 99.050 -26 -25 -23 -22 -21 Blue Devils 2009-08-08 1

2010 90.650 91.150 92.00 92.45 92.300 98.900 -26 -25 -23 -22 -21 Blue Devils 2010-08-14 1

2011 86.450 85.550 88.50 89.40 90.950 97.800 -27 -26 -23 -22 -21 Blue Devils 2011-08-13 2

2012 86.000 85.900 88.35 89.35 90.400 98.700 -27 -26 -23 -22 -21 Blue Devils 2012-08-11 1

2013 84.850 86.100 87.30 87.70 89.450 98.050 -27 -26 -25 -23 -21 Blue Devils 2013-08-10 2

2014 87.600 88.900 89.80 91.30 91.650 99.650 -27 -26 -25 -22 -21 Blue Devils 2014-08-09 1

2015 82.850 83.800 84.65 86.90 87.300 0.000 -28 -27 -26 -22 -21 Blue Devils 2015-08-08 0

EX) S3=score at time D3; D3=number of days before finals

Note the steady upward progression of BD scores over 7 days; to your point, PR had a huge 3 point jump,

then leveled off their score increases.

I wonder if there were some scoring changes made for this season - I haven't kept up to date

on all the DCI rules and judging changes.

In any case, if PR scores appear a bit lackluster, it's not your imagination - and, it's about the

same for most drum corps this year, about a 4 point drop over previous years.

Looking forward to seeing all the performances in Indy next week!

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Constructive comments are different than venting someones hatred and anger. I'm sure you know the difference.

Well here's some of the comments from the Chester thread:

This show is exceedingly mediocre.

The percussion is not very good

There's not much more to say; Regiment has really not recovered from losing their all-star duo of Shaw and Rennick to SCV.

Pretty accurate assessment of PR. They are unfortunately trying to use a buick to beat Indycars

### it hurts to hear all this stuff about PR, because I know it to be true.

I love Paris, when it doesn'tfitthetheme.

So that's constructive criticism? ..... if you say so..

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Well here's some of the comments from the Chester thread:

This show is exceedingly mediocre.

The percussion is not very good

There's not much more to say; Regiment has really not recovered from losing their all-star duo of Shaw and Rennick to SCV.

Pretty accurate assessment of PR. They are unfortunately trying to use a buick to beat Indycars

### it hurts to hear all this stuff about PR, because I know it to be true.

I love Paris, when it doesn'tfitthetheme.

So that's constructive criticism? ..... if you say so..

More telling than that... barely any comments at all. :(

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did they have a new ending in? details?

I'd like to know too. I unfortunately missed any Periscopes tonight.

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