FTNK Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Was watching some old shows (1998, 1985, 1987 Cadets, etc) and there are so many tasty and subtle mezzopiano ensemble moments. It seems like the activity has gone away from that...we got a lot of forte runs building into fff impact chords. Anyone else notice this? Not every corps has to be Star 1993 but yea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lintjerk Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 See Cadets 2015 around the 3:30 mark. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Was watching some old shows (1998, 1985, 1987 Cadets, etc) and there are so many tasty and subtle mezzopiano ensemble moments. It seems like the activity has gone away from that...we got a lot of forte runs building into fff impact chords. Anyone else notice this? Not every corps has to be Star 1993 but yea... I agree. Dynamic contrast is very rare nowadays. There are still some great examples of it, but it doesn't happen as often (such as Phantom Regiment 2012, Cadets 2013, BD 2014) and even then most of those contrasts only occur in the ballad portions of the shows. Whenever I think of great dynamic contrast, my mind always goes to the Phantom Regiment 1996 opener. The most insane buildup I've ever listened to. I think the nature of the instrument affects the change. The Bb instruments don't have the same volume output as G bugles, and so playing piano on today's instruments would be VERY quiet in a dome/football field setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywhopper Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 It's all of a piece with amplifying the pit, adding synths, upping the corps sizes, and amplifying soloists. I wonder if we can correlate the average volume of the corps to the average age (and implied hearing loss) of the corps staff and judges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeN Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I also wonder how much Lucas Oil Stadium has to do with it. It's an awfully big space to fill with sound. Mike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthe50 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Was watching some old shows (1998, 1985, 1987 Cadets, etc) and there are so many tasty and subtle mezzopiano ensemble moments. It seems like the activity has gone away from that...we got a lot of forte runs building into fff impact chords. Anyone else notice this? Not every corps has to be Star 1993 but yea... It's a compulsory contest today. How many notes can we play and how fast can we run. It really is amazing BUT, some of the music opportunities have been passed over. It's a shame. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Was watching some old shows (1998, 1985, 1987 Cadets, etc) and there are so many tasty and subtle mezzopiano ensemble moments. It seems like the activity has gone away from that...we got a lot of forte runs building into fff impact chords. Anyone else notice this? Not every corps has to be Star 1993 but yea...I think Cadets are doing dynamics very well this season but overall, I do agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris ncsu Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I agree. Dynamic contrast is very rare nowadays. There are still some great examples of it, but it doesn't happen as often (such as Phantom Regiment 2012, Cadets 2013, BD 2014) and even then most of those contrasts only occur in the ballad portions of the shows. Whenever I think of great dynamic contrast, my mind always goes to the Phantom Regiment 1996 opener. The most insane buildup I've ever listened to. I think the nature of the instrument affects the change. The Bb instruments don't have the same volume output as G bugles, and so playing piano on today's instruments would be VERY quiet in a dome/football field setting. Yup! It's much shorter, but the buildup to the climax of Angels & Demons is wonderful, too. Like it or not, Do You Hear What I Hear was soft, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Dixon Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Cadets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappybara Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Yup! It's much shorter, but the buildup to the climax of Angels & Demons is wonderful, too. Like it or not, Do You Hear What I Hear was soft, too. I loved how soft they made it! It wouldn't have sounded right otherwise, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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