sched88 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Congratulations, Vanguard Cadets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFZFAN Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) lol Watch Watch what? SCVC beat BDB in percussion. And everything else. Edited August 5, 2015 by SFZFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tad_MMA Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) However, what are the chances that we will see an open class corps in finals again soon? Was the last time this happened Magic of Orlando? Yeah, stupid rule making a corps start out (or return after an absence) in Open Class. Why? Magic had no business being relegated to OC. Had this rule been in effect 30 years ago, would people have appreciated newbie Star of Indiana burning up Open Class by 16 points? In the old Quarterfinal format, that's the spread between them and the OC Champs, the Ventures (greatly missed, btw). Musical bullying? What if BD decided to take a year off to travel the world? They return and win OC with a 114.725. And probably Best Color Guard. Edited August 5, 2015 by Tad_MMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcarlton Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Yeah, stupid rule making a corps start out (or return after an absence) in Open Class. Why? Magic had no business being relegated to OC. Had this rule been in effect 30 years ago, would people have appreciated newbie Star of Indiana burning up Open Class by 16 points? In the old Quarterfinal format, that's the spread between them and the OC Champs, the Ventures (greatly missed, btw). Musical bullying? What if BD decided to take a year off to travel the world? They return and win OC with a 114.725. And probably Best Color Guard. The rule was put in place to keep corps from taking a year off and then instantly jumping back into World Class aka sharing more of the profits from ticket sales without having a solvent program. World Class status is supposed to be a privilege for programs that are solvent and mature enough to push the activity and have enough design, music, and business support to drive ticket sales. With that being said, Magic of Orlando and even Capital Regiment had to go Open Class to prove their programs were solvent. As was discovered both programs were unable to maintain their World Class status in the years after their return and thus folded. IMO Genesis and probably 7th Regiment should be in World Class as their completing full tours, and have solid design and music performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainshdw08 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) Watch what? SCVC beat BDB in percussion. And everything else. I think he (flammaster) was referring to the previous post that said they didn't think BDB and SCVC would beat Academy...at least i hope he was. lol. Edited August 5, 2015 by rainshdw08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flammaster Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Of course I was and he knows it. I don't have time for little flame baiters like that child. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFZFAN Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) I think he (flammaster) was referring to the previous post that said they didn't think BDB and SCVC would beat Academy...at least i hope he was. lol. Well it's nearly impossible to know what he's talking about. He never quotes who he's answering, often types gibberish, then there's the epic family day rant/hissy fit, and the childish name calling. It just keeps getting better and better. Edited August 5, 2015 by SFZFAN 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) . IMO Genesis and probably 7th Regiment should be in World Class as their completing full tours, and have solid design and music performance. Pioneer ( and perhaps a couple of other Corps) should be in the Open Class Division, not the World Class Division. I see nothing enriching in a competitive arena to be miscaste in competitive Division in which such placement dooms one each and every season to the bottom of the Division. Thats beyond silly. Its sad for the MM's, really. Put them in Open Class. Then they can properly gauge themselves throughout the season against similar level Corps. When Pioneer marchers are pretty much resigned to last place each and every season as competitors in the World Class Division, then adult egos perhaps have blunted the entrance into the cranium of what should be a common sense approach. Pioneer has improved themselves this season too. But its an improvement in the wrong Division and one that still relegates themselves to their customary last place position. DCI should have the authority to step in on behalf of the MM's and for proper competitive assignment and make the decision to move Pioneer to the proper division that they belong in. Over a decade of last place finishes requires such a common sense approach and for the betterment of everyone, imo. Edited August 5, 2015 by BRASSO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadwick Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 But Open Class corps don't get performance fees at shows, correct? If that is the case, then it hurts Pioneer financially to move to Open Class. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Tuma Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) Pioneer ( and perhaps a couple of other Corps) should be in the Open Class Division, not the World Class Division. I see nothing enriching in a competitive arena to be miscaste in competitive Division in which such placement dooms one each and every season to the bottom of the Division. Thats beyond silly. Its sad for the MM's, really. Put them in Open Class. Then they can properly gauge themselves throughout the season against similar level Corps. When Pioneer marchers are pretty much resigned to last place each and every season as competitors in the World Class Division, then adult egos perhaps have blunted the entrance into the cranium of what should be a common sense approach. Pioneer has improved themselves this season too. But its an improvement in the wrong Division and one that still relegates themselves to their customary last place position. DCI should have the authority to step in on behalf of the MM's and for proper competitive assignment and make the decision to move Pioneer to the proper division that they belong in. Over a decade of last place finishes requires such a common sense approach and for the betterment of everyone, imo. Looks like Pioneer is closer to Colt Cadets in scoring than they are to their nearest World Class competition. Ouch. Nevertheless, Pioneer is greatly improved this season. Edited August 5, 2015 by Brian Tuma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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