BRASSO Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 2000Cadet said: Cadets are always criticized (even by myself) for playing music from the past. Every Corps plays " music from the past". I don't recall any of the Corps from 2016 playing music that was written by outsiders in 2016. So whether a Corps is doing a redo or music they have never done before, its more than likely " old music ". Some of the " old music " we routinely hear played in DCI Drum Corps was composed over 100, 200, 300 years ago. That sure fits my personal definition of " old music " anyway. Bernstein's " Mass " was written far more recently than that " old music " too, Edited May 3, 2017 by BRASSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 27 minutes ago, BRASSO said: Every Corps plays " music from the past". I don't recall any of the Corps from 2016 playing music that was written by outsiders in 2016. So whether a Corps is doing a redo or music they have never done before, its more than likely " old music ". Some of the " old music " we routinely hear played in DCI Drum Corps was composed over 100, 200, 300 years ago. That sure fits my personal definition of " old music " anyway. Bernstein's " Mass " was written far more recently than that " old music " too, What is your point? I know every corps plays music from the past. HIS point was that every OTHER corps is criticized for playing music from the past, but NOT The Cadets; the point to which I was responding. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dans Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 51 minutes ago, 2000Cadet said: Lol what freaking universe are you living on? Care to go back to 2009? How about 2013? Or maybe even 2014? Cadets are always criticized (even by myself) for playing music from the past. You are spot on sir. Some have very short memories! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranintothedoor Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 So, thought: ex., Malaguena - amazing, but it's 5 minutes long, it's repetitive and has fairly simple song structure. Only so many fresh takes you can get out of it. Bernstein's Mass - amazing, and 2 hours long, it's got a lonngg historical context of the Mass itself, the FBI/Nixon thing to draw upon, etc. Way more material for interpretation and material to use. I'm less upset about the re-use of Mass vs. short jazz/pop songs :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleran Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, 2000Cadet said: Lol what freaking universe are you living on? Care to go back to 2009? How about 2013? Or maybe even 2014? Cadets are always criticized (even by myself) for playing music from the past. You forgot to mention 2016: Quote "the corps is playing Pines of Rome...which has been covered so many times that it is almost boring." Mike Rapp, June 21, 2016 Quote " Pines of Rome " ?.... lets see,.... who has played played" Pines of Rome " before : Hawthorne Muchachos ( almost won a DCI Title with it )....... 1975, 1976. Cavaliers.............................................................................1982, 1983, 1984 Star of Indiana.( won a DCI Title playing it )............................1991 Phantom Regiment...................................................................1998 Phoenix....................................................................................1998 Cadence...................................................................................1998 US Naval Academy...................................................................2001 Hawthorne Caballeros..............................................................2002 Presidents................................................................................2004, 2005 Legends......................................................................................2010 Reading Buccaneers ( won a DCA Title with it ).........................2010 Boston Crusaders.......................................................................2012 Brasso, October 3, 2015 Edited May 3, 2017 by Eleran 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Just now, Eleran said: You forgot to mention 2016: And there ya go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 i've never liked bernstein's mass, and have only watched Cadets 83 a couple of times. so it'll be pretty fresh for me. hoping the original composition/incidental stuff is extremely incidental. i'd rather hear west side story or appalachian spring again than original music. no matter what, i'm excited for this corps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2000Cadet Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Lance said: i've never liked bernstein's mass, and have only watched Cadets 83 a couple of times. so it'll be pretty fresh for me. hoping the original composition/incidental stuff is extremely incidental. i'd rather hear west side story or appalachian spring again than original music. no matter what, i'm excited for this corps. Personally, I never thought any of those pieces were particularly exciting in the 80s (specifically played by Cadets in the past, not the source music {disclaimer, I have never actually listed to the source music for Bernstein's Mass}, but the music The Cadets arranged). Part of it obviously has to do with the fact that I didn't really appreciate the music because I was not of age to even know what music was. I'm hoping Cadets do great with what they have this year because I want an exciting, baby-throwing show from them this year. Edited May 3, 2017 by 2000Cadet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 51 minutes ago, Lance said: i've never liked bernstein's mass, and have only watched Cadets 83 a couple of times. so it'll be pretty fresh for me. hoping the original composition/incidental stuff is extremely incidental. i'd rather hear west side story or appalachian spring again than original music. no matter what, i'm excited for this corps. amen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRASSO Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, 2000Cadet said: What is your point? I know every corps plays music from the past. HIS point was that every OTHER corps is criticized for playing music from the past, but NOT The Cadets; the point to which I was responding. Regarding this question then, I find it is generally the LOWER placing Corps that we find being criticised for playing music from the past ( or that other Corps have played before ) than any of the G7 Corps. The G7 Corps, in my experience anyway, tend to be given a pass when they play music played before by other Corps, or a they do a redo of a show they themselves have done before. I don't see the Cadets getting quite the criticism for playing previously played music that you apparently do. If a lower placing, non G7 Corps, announced today that they would be playing ( for example ) " Jingle Bells " ( or BD's " Happy Days Are Here Again" ) they'd be excoriated on here for a preseason announcement of such music selections, imo. Thats how I assess this anyway. Edited May 3, 2017 by BRASSO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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