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August 3, 2017 vs. August 4, 2016

2017

There were no large score swings in either of the two shows. The Cavaliers tightened things up in the top 5 and are now only 0.700 points from a medalist spot.

Tonight's Storylines:

  • Phantom Regiment has led Blue Stars in all 5 meetings this season by an average score of 2.295 yet the two corps are just 0.200 points apart in the rankings heading into tonight.
  • Colts and Troopers continue to battle for the #15 spot.
  • Can Mandarins set up the weekend with a high enough score to be in the mix for a top 12 performance order spot at Prelims?

2016

Conversely, there was major drama this time last year as Bluecoats and Carolina Crown tied for first place heading into DCI East weekend. Three corps (all at one show) had score increases of 2+ points: Boston Crusaders (4.950), Mandarins (4.000), and Oregon Crusaders (2.350). This helped Boston Crusaders most as it moved from #14 to #9.

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If most recent scoring order was unchanged in a single competition, Pioneer would be the last qualifier for Open Class Finals if they were added to the Prelims lineup.

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August 4, 2017 vs. August 5, 2016

2017

From my vantage point on the 50 yard line in row 17 at J. Birney Crum Stadium, night 1 of DCI East was awesome and it seems to me that placements are where they ought to be. I thought Blue Stars might have been on top of Phantom Regiment and I was not at all surprised to see Colts make a jump relative to Troopers. The two big score increases were in the other show of the night: Colt Cadets (3.250) and Spartans (2.525). Colt Cadets gained 4 spots in the rankings to move to #36.

Last Night's Storylines:

  • Phantom Regiment has led Blue Stars in all 5 meetings this season by an average score of 2.295 yet the two corps are just 0.200 points apart in the rankings heading into tonight.
    • Blue Stars are making a push to claim the #9 spot.
  • Colts and Troopers continue to battle for the #15 spot.
    • Colts made a strong statement that #15 is going to the corps from Iowa.
  • Can Mandarins set up the weekend with a high enough score to be in the mix for a top 12 performance order spot at Prelims?
    • It does not look that way. Madison Scouts would need a pretty decent decrease in score to slot Mandarins into the #12 spot.

Tonight's Storylines:

  • The currently ranked #4-#8 are all on tonight. Can The Cavaliers further close the gap with Carolina Crown? Can The Cadets overtake Boston Crusaders and reclaim a spot in the top 6? Will Madison Scouts make a run at Crossmen for #11?
  • Then there are the across night questions. Where does Santa Clara Vanguard end up relative to Blue Devils heading to Indianapolis? Are Bluecoats really in medal contention now or will Carolina Crown move up to #3? Crossmen have been beating Blue Stars. If that continues, is there a tight 3-way race for #9? 

2016

Quite a few corps put up significant score increases across the different shows. The Academy jumped up 2 spots to #11 to make a strong case for its inclusion in finals. There were no head-to-head changes in placement in World Class.

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August 5, 2017 vs. August 6, 2016

2017

The 3 2+ point score increases all came in one show: 7th Regiment (5.250), Music City (4.513), and Southwind (3.550). Les Stentors decreased 5.650 points. The only world class corps to move more than 1 spot in the rankings was Pacific Crest, which dropped from #20 to #23 while not in competition.

Last Night's Storylines:

  • The currently ranked #4-#8 are all on tonight. Can The Cavaliers further close the gap with Carolina Crown? Can The Cadets overtake Boston Crusaders and reclaim a spot in the top 6? Will Madison Scouts make a run at Crossmen for #11?
    • The Cavaliers did not close the gap as its score stayed exactly the same from its previous competition.
    • Boston Crusaders increased 0.388 versus The Cadets' improvement of 0.338. 
    • Crossmen expanded its lead over Madison Scouts.
  • Then there are the across night questions. Where does Santa Clara Vanguard end up relative to Blue Devils heading to Indianapolis? Are Bluecoats really in medal contention now or will Carolina Crown move up to #3? Crossmen have been beating Blue Stars. If that continues, is there a tight 3-way race for #9? 
    • Santa Clara Vanguard finished 0.513 points behind Blue Devils, slightly closer than the average difference between the two corps but not nearly as close as Santa Clara Vanguard was a week ago.
    • Carolina Crown seems to have the edge.
    • Blue Stars scored higher in Allentown and both Blue Stars and Crossmen seem to be within striking distance of Phantom Regiment. There could be some interesting competition in this grouping.

Tonight's Storylines:

  • Blue Devils and Santa Clara Vanguard are head-to-head for the first time in a week. What's the real separation between the two heading into Indianapolis?
  • Carolina Crown made up some ground with Santa Clara Vanguard in head-to-head competition last night in Allentown. Are we looking at a 2 or 3 corps fight to the finish?
  • From my view on the 50-yard-line, it felt like Boston Crusaders were on the rise and The Cavaliers were not at the top of its game last night in Allentown. As the top of the bill tonight, can Boston Crusaders make a case for the top 5?
  • Blue Stars are closer to Phantom Regiment than they have been all season. Phantom Regiment has not placed in double digits since 1986. Even at its current position of #9, it would tie as the corps' lowest placement in 3 decades with 2009.
  • Mandarins get a chance to make a statement head-to-head with Madison Scouts. Will Madison Scouts cement its lead or will there be a battle this week to see who will be the last corps standing? (See what I did there?)

2016

Several corps put up big score increases: River City Rhythm (6.650), Genesis (5.850), Les Stentors (4.050), Shadow (3.188) and 5 more with 2+ point increases. With both nights of Allentown complete, there was a 3-way race for the gold medal with less than 0.400 separating Bluecoats, Blue Devils, and Carolina Crown. Nothing in the top 12 would change from Allentown to finals.

Comparison

Last year, there were several extremely tight races coming out of DCI East yet none of them led to placement changes at finals. #1 through #3 were separated by only 0.362 points, #4 through #6 were separated by only 0.449 points. #7 through #9 were separated by 0.200 points and there was the 0.050 margin between #12 and #13.

This year's #2 corps is further from #1 than last year's #3 corps was at the same time yet we still have 3 corps within about a point at the top, which is not something to ignore. There's a tight race in the #6-#7 range with separation of only 0.350. There's another tight race in the #9-#11 range with a separation of 0.850. Mandarins would need to close a 1.275 point gap to get into finals.

There hasn't been much movement since San Antonio, so much of this information remains the same.

If the season ended today, there would be several notable finishes related to the Top 12:

  • Santa Clara Vanguard last finished in the top 2 in 1999 when it won the championship.
  • Bluecoats moving from 1 to 4 in a season would add it to a long list of DCI champions who follow up a championship year with a 4th place or lower finish. In fact, this has been the case 17 out 44 times (39%). The most recent first-time champion, 2013 Carolina Crown, finished in 5th place in 2014. Amazingly, this has been the case only once for Blue Devils (1986-87) despite its 17 opportunities to follow up a championship.
  • Boston Crusaders would finish in 6th place, its highest finish since 2003. This would be the greatest movement from 12th place since 1990 when Crossmen finished in 7th after a 12th place finish in 1989. Interesting note: Velvet Knights and Spirit of Atlanta also made 12->7 movement earlier in the 1980s. The only corps ever to improve greater than 12->6 was Blue Stars who went from 12 to 5 from 1973 to 1974.
  • The Cadets would finish in 7th place, its lowest finish since 1981.
  • This would mark the fifth year in a row for Blue Stars finishing as a finalist, the longest streak since leaving top 12 status in 1980 after having been a founding member of the DCI elite.
  • This would mark the fourth year in a row for Crossmen finishing as a finalist, the longest streak since being knocked out of finals in 2005.
  • The closest Mandarins have come to Top 12 was a 16th place finish in 2001. 

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August 6, 2017 vs. August 7, 2016

2017

No changes in rankings. Score increases/decreases were very small, just like last year. The most significant change was Genesis going down by 1.175 points. In the medal hunt, Blue Devils had the best night as it opened up its lead over Santa Clara Vanguard ever so slightly. Bluecoats also cut down on the gap with Carolina Crown. Across shows, The Cavaliers gained some ground on Bluecoats as well. 

Last Night's Storylines:

  • From my view on the 50-yard-line, it felt like Boston Crusaders were on the rise and The Cavaliers were not at the top of its game last night in Allentown. As the top of the bill tonight, can Boston Crusaders make a case for the top 5?
    • That did not happen at this show and the gap to get up to the top 5 may be too large to overcome at this point.
  • Blue Stars are closer to Phantom Regiment than they have been all season. Phantom Regiment has not placed in double digits since 1986. Even at its current position of #9, it would tie as the corps' lowest placement in 3 decades with 2009.
    • Phantom Regiment gained another 0.125 of breathing room.
  • Mandarins get a chance to make a statement head-to-head with Madison Scouts. Will Madison Scouts cement its lead or will there be a battle this week to see who will be the last corps standing? (See what I did there?)
    • Madison Scouts opened up its lead in the battle for #12 by another 0.325 points.

Tonight's Storylines:

  • It is day 1 of Finals Week! The main story has to be Blue Devils B vs. Vanguard Cadets in the fight for the gold medal. The two corps account for 8 of the last 9 Open Class championships (Oregon Crusaders in 2012 is the exception). There is also a fight for the bronze medal with Legends and Music City neck and neck. 
  • Tonight is the final pre-Indianapolis opportunity for corps to make statements. The top 7 (minus Blue Devils) are head-to-head. 

2016

The Cadets moved ahead of The Cavaliers in head-to-head competition. Across shows, Madison Scouts moved into the #12 spot over Boston Crusaders.

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August 7, 2017 vs. August 8, 2016

2017

Generally speaking, scores stabilized or decreased at Open Class prelims compared to the last regular season scores and went up more in the World Class corps. This is not the same as what happened last year where it was the other way around. In head-to-head competition, Vanguard Cadets edged Blue Devils B by almost 1.300 points, its largest margin of victory of the season. Les Stentors put up the largest score increase in the circuit at 5.600. There were several non head-to-head rankings changes that will be flushed out once everyone is on the same field on Thursday. It may be notable that the top corps in the Erie, PA show had larger score increases than anyone at the Massillon, OH show.

Congratulations to Southwind which made Open Class finals in its first year in championship week competition since 2007. The other 9 finalist corps were all there last year as well. Southwind takes the place of Genesis, which moved to World Class this year.

For the second year in a row, and the second time in two appearances, Shadow just missed the finalist cut by placing 13th. 

Last Night's Storylines:

  • It is day 1 of Finals Week! The main story has to be Blue Devils B vs. Vanguard Cadets in the fight for the gold medal. The two corps account for 8 of the last 9 Open Class championships (Oregon Crusaders in 2012 is the exception). There is also a fight for the bronze medal with Legends and Music City neck and neck. 
    • Vanguard Cadets have made a strong case for the gold medal.
    • Legends also has a pretty good lead over Music City for the bronze.
  • Tonight is the final pre-Indianapolis opportunity for corps to make statements. The top 7 (minus Blue Devils) are head-to-head. 
    • No changes in placement. The most significant scoring changes were Carolina Crown closing in on Santa Clara Vanguard and The Cadets closing in on Boston Crusaders. 

Tonight's Storylines:

  • Will Vanguard Cadets hold off Blue Devils B to win its 5th DCI Open Class championship?
  • Will Legends hold off Music City to tie its best Open Class finish ever (3rd in 2016).
  • Even in 4th place, Music City is poised for its best finish ever at 4th place in Open Class. The previous high water mark was 5th place in 2013.
  • The Spartans are a rare corps that took a year off to regroup in 2009 and came back as strong or stronger than ever. Since then, the corps has never placed lower than 5th in Open Class and is on track to maintain that standing this year.
  • In only its second year competing at Open Class championships, Louisiana Stars is positioned for its highest placement ever at #6. In its only previous appearance, the corps placed 9th.
  • Guardians is looking to make its first appearance in the top 10 after placing 11th in its first visit to the big show last year

2016

Several of the top Open Class corps came out with big score increases in Indianapolis: Vanguard Cadets (4.350), Blue Devils B (3.863), 7th Regiment (3.775), Music City (3.300), Les Stentors (3.250), Colt Cadets (3.175), etc. On the World Class front, scores leveled off or even decreased for several corps. The Cadets beat Santa Clara Vanguard by 0.025 in head-to-head competition and the scores of the top 3 were separated by only 0.500.

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August 8, 2017 vs. August 9, 2016

2017

Somewhat surprisingly, scores increased quite a bit for a finals competition with three corps moving up 2+ points: 7th Regiment (2.175), Gold (72.750), and Southwind (2.125) and no corps decreasing in score. This had an effect on relative placements compared to World Class corps. It will be interesting to see how that all shakes out on Thursday. The only in show placement change from prelims was Southwind defeating Guardians.

Last Night's Storylines:

  • Will Vanguard Cadets hold off Blue Devils B to win its 5th DCI Open Class championship?
    • Yes!
  • Will Legends hold off Music City to tie its best Open Class finish ever (3rd in 2016).
    • Yes!
  • Even in 4th place, Music City is poised for its best finish ever at 4th place in Open Class. The previous high water mark was 5th place in 2013.
    • Music City finished in 4th place.
  • The Spartans are a rare corps that took a year off to regroup in 2009 and came back as strong or stronger than ever. Since then, the corps has never placed lower than 5th in Open Class and is on track to maintain that standing this year.
    • Status maintained.
  • In only its second year competing at Open Class championships, Louisiana Stars is positioned for its highest placement ever at #6. In its only previous appearance, the corps placed 9th.
    • This wound up being the case and the corps won "Most Improved" for the second year in a row.
  • Guardians is looking to make its first appearance in the top 10 after placing 11th in its first visit to the big show last year
    • Guardians dropped from #10 to #11 in finals.

2016

Blue Devils B maintained its lead and won the DCI Open Class championship. There were no placement changes within the competition.

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I've really enjoyed this thread.

Thank you !!

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I nominate this for thread of the year. Outstanding work!

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i second that motion. i also second that emotion.

fantastic work and greatly appreciated by everyone. especially those of us who cannot attend finals week this year. and especially by those of us who are canadian and totally shut out of the flomarching site. 

thanks again.

 

pete

 

 

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